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Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by williambowen5259

I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be 
launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre 
print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process 
Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.

I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the 
sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom 
days!

RE: [Digital BW] Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Jim Doyle

WWell This Is also Know as Innova F-type gloss which will be out after PMA..
I understand That They will have some samples at the booth to see..

As for availablity I really Dont Know Yet.. Lets put it this way.. Its on
its way.. However I have heard That from All of the manufactures lately and
I dont think any have made the date they say!

So Ill Keep everyone Informed..

PS This is the Da Vinci paper to..

Cheers
Jim Doyle


J. Doyle Enterprises LLC
114 Old Orchard Rd
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
856-424-8660
http://www.shadesofpaper.com
AOL IM: Brokerup99
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williambowen5259
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  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Permajet Fibre Base Gloss


  I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be
  launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
  The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre
  print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
  According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process
  Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.

  I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the
  sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom
  days!







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Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by boilerdoc2

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "williambowen5259" 
<williambowen5259@...> wrote:
>
> I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be 
> launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
> The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre 
> print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
> According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, 
Process 
> Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
> 
> I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the 
> sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my 
darkroom 
> days!
>
This may very well be the 'Crane Museo Silver Rag' that all the buzz 
has been about. I have a note to let me know when it is available with 
Jennifer at Digital Art Supplies. Steve

Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by alanrew42

Is this the same as the paper described on the Silverprint web site as
"DELTA MATT FIBRE 271" on 
http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html

or do they claim it's a newer one?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"williambowen5259" <williambowen5259@...> wrote:
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>
> I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be 
> launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
> The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre 
> print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
> According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process 
> Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
> 
> I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the 
> sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom 
> days!
>

Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by williambowen5259

Apparently not. That paper has been around for a while and has a matt 
finish, whereas the new one has a silky, shiny finish.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "alanrew42" 
<Alan-Rew@...> wrote:
>
> Is this the same as the paper described on the Silverprint web site 
as
> "DELTA MATT FIBRE 271" on 
> http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html
> 
> or do they claim it's a newer one?
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "williambowen5259" <williambowen5259@> wrote:
> >
> > I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be 
> > launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
> > The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre 
> > print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating 
for.
> > According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, 
Process 
> > Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
> > 
> > I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as 
the 
> > sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my 
darkroom
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> > days!
> >
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Steve Kale

Given Permajet don't actually make any paper, could it just be that they're
selling re-branded Crane Museo Silver Rag?
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> From: alanrew42 <Alan-Rew@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:34:11 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss
> 
> Is this the same as the paper described on the Silverprint web site as
> "DELTA MATT FIBRE 271" on
> http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html
> 
> or do they claim it's a newer one?
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "williambowen5259" <williambowen5259@...> wrote:
>> 
>> I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be
>> launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
>> The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre
>> print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
>> According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process
>> Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
>> 
>> I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the
>> sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom
>> days!
>> 
>

PrintFIX

2006-02-23 by Yoelis Diaz

Hi.
  I can use PrintFix with epson R2400. 
  Thak you.

		
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Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Helen Bach

Record Rapid. Oooh. I still have a few boxes left in the fridge, but
mostly grades 2 and 4 now.

There's also Innova Fibaprint Glossy which should be on sale soon, if
it isn't already. In a month or two there might be more varieties of
imitation silver gelatin paper than there are real ones. Well, I guess
that's already happened for colour.

Best,
Helen

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"williambowen5259" <williambowen5259@...> wrote:
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>
> I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be 
> launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
> The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre 
> print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
> According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process 
> Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
> 
> I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the 
> sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom 
> days!
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Steve Kale

I would bet the Innova product and the Permajet products are exactly the
same given that their pure cotton bright white (Omega) and natural white
(Alpha) are.
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> From: Helen Bach <helenbach@...>

> 
> There's also Innova Fibaprint Glossy which should be on sale soon, if
> it isn't already.

Re: PrintFIX

2006-02-23 by John Vitollo

Yoelis Diaz < wrote:
>   I can use PrintFix with epson R2400. 

Yes both for color prints and B+W via ABW/QTR

ABW has been driving me crazy as the screen-to-print is not accurate.

As mentioned in a few posts back Steve Kale suggests using QTR-Create-ICC tool to add 
soft-proofing and color management to the ABW mix. This is the primary reason I purchased 
PrintFix Pro. You need the "Pro" version.

I purchased the Pro Suite version that comes with the Spyder for about $430.00 on eBay. 
Without the Spyder it's about $360.00.

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Jim Doyle

Its Innova ...

Cheers
Jim Doyle


J. Doyle Enterprises LLC
114 Old Orchard Rd
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
856-424-8660
http://www.shadesofpaper.com
AOL IM: Brokerup99
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Steve Kale
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:49 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss


  Given Permajet don't actually make any paper, could it just be that
they're
  selling re-branded Crane Museo Silver Rag?


  > From: alanrew42 <Alan-Rew@...>
  > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:34:11 -0000
  > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss
  >
  > Is this the same as the paper described on the Silverprint web site as
  > "DELTA MATT FIBRE 271" on
  > http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html
  >
  > or do they claim it's a newer one?
  >
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
  > "williambowen5259" <williambowen5259@...> wrote:
  >>
  >> I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be
  >> launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
  >> The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre
  >> print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
  >> According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process
  >> Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
  >>
  >> I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the
  >> sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom
  >> days!
  >>
  >




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Re: [Digital BW] Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Steve Kale

So still just two new papers:  Silver Rag and Da Vinci.  I'd be interested
in people's thoughts on the Da Vinci product re bronzing (you've heard mine)
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> From: Jim Doyle <jdoyle1713@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:14:24 -0500
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Permajet Fibre Base Gloss
> 
> WWell This Is also Know as Innova F-type gloss which will be out after PMA..
> I understand That They will have some samples at the booth to see..
> 
> As for availablity I really Dont Know Yet.. Lets put it this way.. Its on
> its way.. However I have heard That from All of the manufactures lately and
> I dont think any have made the date they say!
> 
> So Ill Keep everyone Informed..
> 
> PS This is the Da Vinci paper to..
> 
> Cheers
> Jim Doyle
> 
> 
> J. Doyle Enterprises LLC
> 114 Old Orchard Rd
> Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
> 856-424-8660
> http://www.shadesofpaper.com
> AOL IM: Brokerup99
>

[Digital BW] Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-23 by Helen Bach

There's a print made on a sample of the Innova paper in the January
print exchange, isn't there? I'll compare it to the Brand X paper (I
don't want to upset anyone with irresponsible publicity) tonight.

Best,
Helen

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle"
<jdoyle1713@...> wrote:
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>
> Its Innova ...
> 
> Cheers
> Jim Doyle

Re: Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-24 by paulo030947

remember the press release of the Da Vinci:
QUOTE
"The Da Vinci Fibre Gloss paper was developed over the last two years
by Danny Chau, the owner of ChauDigital, with an unnamed manufacturer.

It is 'designed to give inkjet prints the look and feel of a
traditional black-and-white silver halide fibre paper............ Chau also says
that the paper works especially well with Epson UltraChrome K3 ink
range, with its three grades of black.

The paper is now available by visiting www.chaudigital.com, but will
also be sold by Permajet as its own brand Fibre Base Gloss 295gsm
paper."
UNQUOTE


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "alanrew42" <Alan-Rew@...> 
wrote:
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>
> Is this the same as the paper described on the Silverprint web site as
> "DELTA MATT FIBRE 271" on 
> http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html
> 
> or do they claim it's a newer one?
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "williambowen5259" <williambowen5259@> wrote:
> >
> > I've just discovered a new paper that Permajet are supposed to be 
> > launching at FOCUS in Birmingham this weekend.
> > The sample I received looks just like a traditional silver fibre 
> > print ... fantastic! It could be just the paper I've been wating for.
> > According to Permajet's office, it's available at Silverprint, Process 
> > Supplies, Calumet and PSC (Flash Centre) in London.
> > 
> > I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about it, as the 
> > sample looked exactly like an Agfa Record Rapid print from my darkroom 
> > days!
> >
>

Re: [Digital BW] Permajet Fibre Base Gloss

2006-02-24 by Ernst Dinkla

Jim Doyle wrote:
> WWell This Is also Know as Innova F-type gloss which will be out after PMA..
> I understand That They will have some samples at the booth to see..
> 
> As for availablity I really Dont Know Yet.. Lets put it this way.. Its on
> its way.. However I have heard That from All of the manufactures lately and
> I dont think any have made the date they say!
> 
> So Ill Keep everyone Informed..
> 
> PS This is the Da Vinci paper to..
> 
> Cheers
> Jim Doyle

The summary:3 variations of the same UK paper ? Innova, so I 
know where I have to ask in the Netherlands.


Ernst

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