Digital BW, The Print

Recent Black Only prints using Epson 2200 OEM matte black pigments
seem  perfectly neutral, not Epson-warm...

...in all sorts of light, including very warm tungsten, "daylight"
fluorescent, open shade, strong sun...

Has anyone else recently seen neutral black with Epson 2200 pigments?

Have there been any announcements from Epson about improvements?

I'm mostly printing on Kayenta, which is whiter than EEM and stays
that way (better in every respect)...earlier Kayenta and other papers
in Black Only look classically Epson-warm, which is the main reason
I've preferred QTR ...I've refrained from Eboni so far. 

I wonder if these prints will get warmer with age or if Epson's done
the right thing?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43"
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> Recent Black Only prints using Epson 2200 OEM matte black pigments
> seem  perfectly neutral, not Epson-warm...
> 
> ...in all sorts of light, including very warm tungsten, "daylight"
> fluorescent, open shade, strong sun...
> 
> Has anyone else recently seen neutral black with Epson 2200 pigments?
> 
> Have there been any announcements from Epson about improvements?
> 
> I'm mostly printing on Kayenta, which is whiter than EEM and stays
> that way (better in every respect)...earlier Kayenta and other papers
> in Black Only look classically Epson-warm, which is the main reason
> I've preferred QTR ...I've refrained from Eboni so far. 
> 
> I wonder if these prints will get warmer with age or if Epson's done
> the right thing?
>

Or could it simply be that OEM matte-k  is manufactured in different
plants worldwide (remember the differences in KODACHROME hue in USA,
UK and AUSTRALIAN production 40 or so years ago!. Huewise I for one
can't see any difference (0r if there is/were a difference, it is ever
so slight) between my BO prints with MIS EBONI and a 1160 on EAM and
my 2100 BO prints on EAM with OEM matte-k carts.

Chatzebussi

Eboni Black was neutral-black and Epson 2200 OEM Matte Black, OK in
most light, was sometimes unpleasantly warm... obviously a red-toned
black in certain light.

Now it's neutral in all light. Beautiful. I hope somebody else will
confirm. It makes Black Only tolerable with Epson pigments (I still
prefer QTR becase it prints finer detail)

THIS IS WONDERFUL.  

The "old" cartridge box, wastefully bulky, does not specify country of
manufacture.

The "new" slim cart box is labeled "Made In Japan."


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "chatzebussi"
<chatzebussi@...> wrote:

>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43"
> <djon43@> wrote:
> >
> > Recent Black Only prints using Epson 2200 OEM matte black pigments
> > seem  perfectly neutral, not Epson-warm...
> > 
> > ...in all sorts of light, including very warm tungsten, "daylight"
> > fluorescent, open shade, strong sun...
> > 
> > Has anyone else recently seen neutral black with Epson 2200 pigments?
> > 
> > Have there been any announcements from Epson about improvements?
> > 
> > I'm mostly printing on Kayenta, which is whiter than EEM and stays
> > that way (better in every respect)...earlier Kayenta and other papers
> > in Black Only look classically Epson-warm, which is the main reason
> > I've preferred QTR ...I've refrained from Eboni so far. 
> > 
> > I wonder if these prints will get warmer with age or if Epson's done
> > the right thing?
> >
> 
> Or could it simply be that OEM matte-k  is manufactured in different
> plants worldwide (remember the differences in KODACHROME hue in USA,
> UK and AUSTRALIAN production 40 or so years ago!. Huewise I for one
> can't see any difference (0r if there is/were a difference, it is ever
> so slight) between my BO prints with MIS EBONI and a 1160 on EAM and
> my 2100 BO prints on EAM with OEM matte-k carts.
> 
> Chatzebussi
>