Digital BW, The Print

> then with the K3 on glossy. I suspect that the profiles posted are not 
> usable on the the 2400. I have not had time to check the usability of 
> the ABW settings, or see if QTR will be necessary.
> 
> Let me know (on or off list) if you have further questions.
> 
> -matt
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Is anyone using the MIS K4 inks for the R2400?  How do you like them?
> >  How do you feel they compare to the K3 inks?  Do you use the CFS or
> > carts?
> 
> --
> Matt Haber
> dance, portrait and fashion photography
> http://www.matthaber.com
>

On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:23 PM, gguhangunaratnam wrote:

> Yay, someone is using it.  Thanks for replying Matt.  That's too bad
> to hear there is more bronzing with the K4 inks in color.  Do you
> think you just need to fine tune your profile/printing workflow?
>
> I'll be very interested to know what you think after trying out some
> B&W with the ABW settings.  I won't be able to afford to make my own
> profiles at the moment, so if I start to use the K4 inks I need to
> find profiles online.
>
> I'm leaning towards the CFS right now.  I've never owned/used one, but
> it seems a little easier now than those I saw in the past.  I wonder
> if spongeless carts will be easier though.  Did you consider the CFS?
>
> Why aren't more using this inkset?  The R2400 has been a good seller,
> and Eboni is also popular...is this inkset very very new?
>
> Thanks again for the info Matt, as you continue to use the K4 inks I'd
> like to hear your ongoing experiences.
>
> Guhan
>
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Haber"
> <matt@...> wrote:
>>
>> I am--I am using the carts (I got a prefilled set, and i have the  
>> 4 oz
>> replacements--really easy to refill, though the plug is curiously
>> surrounded by a lip, making it harder to remove than the 1280
>> spongeless carts)
>>
>> I have only had them a couple of weeks, just long enough to make a
>> color profile for PGPP and do some client work. Color (with the
>> profile) is as good as K3, though there is a bit more gloss
> differential
>> then with the K3 on glossy. I suspect that the profiles posted are  
>> not
>> usable on the the 2400. I have not had time to check the usability of
>> the ABW settings, or see if QTR will be necessary.
>>
>> Let me know (on or off list) if you have further questions.
>>
>> -matt
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is anyone using the MIS K4 inks for the R2400?  How do you like  
>>> them?
>>>  How do you feel they compare to the K3 inks?  Do you use the CFS or
>>> carts?
>>
>> --
>> Matt Haber
>> dance, portrait and fashion photography
>> http://www.matthaber.com
>>
>
>
>
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> I'm using MIS K4 in my 2400 and have icc profiles for use with ABW  
> mode.  Prints are excellent with no bronzing or gloss diff.  Profiles  
> are available here:
> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html
> 
> On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:23 PM, gguhangunaratnam wrote:
> 
> > Yay, someone is using it.  Thanks for replying Matt.  That's too bad
> > to hear there is more bronzing with the K4 inks in color.  Do you
> > think you just need to fine tune your profile/printing workflow?
> >
> > I'll be very interested to know what you think after trying out some
> > B&W with the ABW settings.  I won't be able to afford to make my own
> > profiles at the moment, so if I start to use the K4 inks I need to
> > find profiles online.
> >
> > I'm leaning towards the CFS right now.  I've never owned/used one, but
> > it seems a little easier now than those I saw in the past.  I wonder
> > if spongeless carts will be easier though.  Did you consider the CFS?
> >
> > Why aren't more using this inkset?  The R2400 has been a good seller,
> > and Eboni is also popular...is this inkset very very new?
> >
> > Thanks again for the info Matt, as you continue to use the K4 inks I'd
> > like to hear your ongoing experiences.
> >
> > Guhan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Haber"
> > <matt@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am--I am using the carts (I got a prefilled set, and i have the  
> >> 4 oz
> >> replacements--really easy to refill, though the plug is curiously
> >> surrounded by a lip, making it harder to remove than the 1280
> >> spongeless carts)
> >>
> >> I have only had them a couple of weeks, just long enough to make a
> >> color profile for PGPP and do some client work. Color (with the
> >> profile) is as good as K3, though there is a bit more gloss
> > differential
> >> then with the K3 on glossy. I suspect that the profiles posted are  
> >> not
> >> usable on the the 2400. I have not had time to check the usability of
> >> the ABW settings, or see if QTR will be necessary.
> >>
> >> Let me know (on or off list) if you have further questions.
> >>
> >> -matt
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Is anyone using the MIS K4 inks for the R2400?  How do you like  
> >>> them?
> >>>  How do you feel they compare to the K3 inks?  Do you use the CFS or
> >>> carts?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matt Haber
> >> dance, portrait and fashion photography
> >> http://www.matthaber.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Hi
> 
> Yep. I'm using MIS K4 inks in my 2400. I use the easyfill carts. 
> Problems so far are nil. The inks are very good. I only use photo black 
> and mainly print on satin papers such as Ilford Smooth pearl for B&W 
> and Olmec Satin for colour. On satin/pearl papers I cannot really tell 
> the difference between OEM inks and MIS. On glossy media the OEM inks 
> are slightly better because they show no signs of bronzing whereas the 
> MIS inks show just a little. When you compare the cost the MIS inks win 
> and I am delighted with the results. I have not tried them on art 
> papers using mK black so cannot comment. Hope this helps.
> 
> Regards Peter.
>