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Oriental Graphica FB

Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by steveh0607

Hello Everyone,

I just used this paper and WOW. It's a glossy but it doesn't look like a typical RC paper. I 
was wondering if it's made using the same technology as the new Museo Silver Rag and 
Premier Platinum Rag.

The image just pops off the page with no bronzing!

Steve

Re: Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by lulalake_1999

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "steveh0607" 
<steveh060758@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just used this paper and WOW. It's a glossy but it doesn't look 
like a typical RC paper. I 
> was wondering if it's made using the same technology as the new 
Museo Silver Rag and 
> Premier Platinum Rag.
> 
> The image just pops off the page with no bronzing!
> 
> Steve
>

Hi Steve,

What printer, what inks?

Thanks

Jules

RE: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by Paul Roark

> ... I was wondering if it's made using the same technology as 
> the new Museo Silver Rag and

I tried some of this about a year ago and found it had a low dmax and was
hard to avoid physical damage to the print from the printer.  It did not
seem to be the same as Crane SR.

> Premier Platinum Rag.

I just tried some of the latest version of this also.  The OBA-free base
looks like Crane Silver Rag, but it has more texture -- too much for me.
Unlike the claims, it did not do well with matte black ink -- very dull
black.  The dmax was lower than Crane SR.  So, it's not a paper that I'd
rate very highly either.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by john dean

Has anyone got their hands on the Hahnemuhle Satin fiber base glossy
media yet? They told me 2 months ago that it was already out of beta
testing. All I've heard is rumors so far.

john





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > ... I was wondering if it's made using the same technology as 
> > the new Museo Silver Rag and
> 
> I tried some of this about a year ago and found it had a low dmax
and was
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> hard to avoid physical damage to the print from the printer.  It did not
> seem to be the same as Crane SR.
> 
> > Premier Platinum Rag.
> 
> I just tried some of the latest version of this also.  The OBA-free base
> looks like Crane Silver Rag, but it has more texture -- too much for me.
> Unlike the claims, it did not do well with matte black ink -- very dull
> black.  The dmax was lower than Crane SR.  So, it's not a paper that I'd
> rate very highly either.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Re: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by Andrew Darlow

Hi Steve:

I'm wondering which ink set and printer you are using. I've found 
that the K3 inks on the Oriental Graphica FB look much better than 
the Utrachrome K2 inks.

All the best,

Andrew Darlow

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http://www.andrewdarlow.com
http://www.imagingbuffet.com



>Hello Everyone,
>
>I just used this paper and WOW. It's a glossy but it doesn't look 
>like a typical RC paper. I
>was wondering if it's made using the same technology as the new 
>Museo Silver Rag and
>Premier Platinum Rag.
>
>The image just pops off the page with no bronzing!
>
>Steve
>


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Re: Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by steveh0607

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
<lulalake_1999@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "steveh0607" 
> <steveh060758@> wrote:
> >
Epson 2200 and inks using QTR. The gloss seems to be part of the paper and not a layer 
on top of the paper.
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> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > I just used this paper and WOW. It's a glossy but it doesn't look 
> like a typical RC paper. I 
> > was wondering if it's made using the same technology as the new 
> Museo Silver Rag and 
> > Premier Platinum Rag.
> > 
> > The image just pops off the page with no bronzing!
> > 
> > Steve
> >
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> What printer, what inks?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jules
>

Re: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-03 by steveh0607

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
wrote:
>
> I don't have the tools to measure dmax but visually it was much blacker than the same 
print on photo rag using cone inks.
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> 
> > ... I was wondering if it's made using the same technology as 
> > the new Museo Silver Rag and
> 
> I tried some of this about a year ago and found it had a low dmax and was
> hard to avoid physical damage to the print from the printer.  It did not
> seem to be the same as Crane SR.
> 
> > Premier Platinum Rag.
> 
> I just tried some of the latest version of this also.  The OBA-free base
> looks like Crane Silver Rag, but it has more texture -- too much for me.
> Unlike the claims, it did not do well with matte black ink -- very dull
> black.  The dmax was lower than Crane SR.  So, it's not a paper that I'd
> rate very highly either.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

RE: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-04 by Max Dee

Paul .....What inks are you using to do your testing?

Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:  

> ... I was wondering if it's made using the same technology as 
> the new Museo Silver Rag and

I tried some of this about a year ago and found it had a low dmax and was
hard to avoid physical damage to the print from the printer.  It did not
seem to be the same as Crane SR.

> Premier Platinum Rag.

I just tried some of the latest version of this also.  The OBA-free base
looks like Crane Silver Rag, but it has more texture -- too much for me.
Unlike the claims, it did not do well with matte black ink -- very dull
black.  The dmax was lower than Crane SR.  So, it's not a paper that I'd
rate very highly either.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 




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RE: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB

2006-05-04 by Paul Roark

The inks I use are the MIS Ultra Tone inks.   I test papers with both PK and
MK.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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> 
> Paul .....What inks are you using to do your testing?
> 
> Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> 
> > ... I was wondering if it's made using the same technology as
> > the new Museo Silver Rag and
> 
> I tried some of this about a year ago and found it had a low dmax and was
> hard to avoid physical damage to the print from the printer.  It did not
> seem to be the same as Crane SR.
> 
> > Premier Platinum Rag.
> 
> I just tried some of the latest version of this also.  The OBA-free base
> looks like Crane Silver Rag, but it has more texture -- too much for me.
> Unlike the claims, it did not do well with matte black ink -- very dull
> black.  The dmax was lower than Crane SR.  So, it's not a paper that I'd
> rate very highly either.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
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