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A little less a newbie

A little less a newbie

2006-09-18 by FRD

After my first week in this group, I'm inching along. Thanks to many of you.

I'm the guy with the new R2400 and wondering what the best setup would be to
maintain both color and B&W.

I'm going to start out with stock Epson profiles in ABW mode and experiment
with other methods further down the line.

When I do pick up QTR, what can I reasonably expect from the printer using
the same stock inks (without replacing Y cart) and is it of any benefit to
do so?

I'm going to follow some of Clayton's "simplified" workflow for now but
would like to try profiling at some point also. Here's a question: If I send
out test charts to be profiled (as opposed to buying a home profiling
device) what has been the consensus as to the quality of outside labs'
profiles? How well do they stand up once inks become depleted and become
replaced?

Of course this is a BW group, but would appreciate any responses that also
keep color also in mind.

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Frank

Re: A little less a newbie

2006-09-18 by Tyler Boley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, FRD <f.dz@...> wrote:
>
> After my first week in this group, I'm inching along. Thanks to many of you.
> 
> I'm the guy with the new R2400 and wondering what the best setup would be to
> maintain both color and B&W.
> 
> I'm going to start out with stock Epson profiles in ABW mode and experiment
> with other methods further down the line.

Frank, to my knowledge there are no stock Epson profiles relevant to use with the ABW 
driver. The only profiles applicable would be those special single channel profiles one can 
make with QTR create ICC.
Otherwise, the ABW workflow is not color managed.
Epson stock profiles are no doubt for printing color.

> When I do pick up QTR, what can I reasonably expect from the printer using
> the same stock inks (without replacing Y cart) and is it of any benefit to
> do so?

A QTR and ABW user with a K3 printer will have to respond. If you are really a "newbie", I'd 
get comfortable with ABW for a while. There are a lot of image editing things to learn 
before complicating your life with more software. On the other hand, QTR's Create ICC is a 
good tool for use with ABW.

> I'm going to follow some of Clayton's "simplified" workflow for now but
> would like to try profiling at some point also. Here's a question: If I send
> out test charts to be profiled (as opposed to buying a home profiling
> device) what has been the consensus as to the quality of outside labs'
> profiles? How well do they stand up once inks become depleted and become
> replaced?

Outside profiling services will probably make standard icc profiles, which are for color use 
like your stock Epsons. Some may make single channel profiles with Create ICC for you 
specifically for B&W, but those won't work for color and are a specialty item most profile 
providers may not be accustomed to.
Inks are very consistent from batch to batch and profiles remain usable generally for the 
life of a printer.

I hope some of that makes sense,
Tyler

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