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2006-10-30 by Bob Cain
I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work: http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781 -- Thanks, Bob Cain http://www.robertcain.info/photography [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by Charles Carstensen
Look at Lee Filters, using various combinations of neutral density graduated filters to get the sky above horizon cut down to allow proper foreground exposure. Lee system is terrific, although a little on the expensive side. They have everything you need for landscape photography. http://leefilters.com Chuck Carstensen On Oct 29, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Bob Cain wrote: > I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My > foreground > is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. > So trees > look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any > tips? > > Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work: > http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781 > > -- > Thanks, > Bob Cain > http://www.robertcain.info/photography > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by Tom Baker
If you're shooting film, try an orange and/or a polarizing filter. If you shooting digfital, be shure you're shooting in raw mode, and a polarizing filter will help with many of the skys. Raw mode in digital will give you the maximum information to work with.
Tom Baker
Bob Cain <boblovesphotos@...> wrote:
I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground
is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees
look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips?
Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work:
http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781
--
Thanks,
Bob Cain
http://www.robertcain.info/photography
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-10-30 by Stephen Castello
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:58:28 -0500, "Bob Cain" <boblovesphotos@...> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out: >I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground >is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees >look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? > A graduated neutral density filter will help the sky. Stephen --
2006-10-30 by CorrPro96@aol.com
In a message dated 10/29/2006 10:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, boblovesphotos@... writes: I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? You need to use a neutral density filter over the bright areas of the scene. Split filters are expensive, but you can do better if you make your own from sheets of N.D. material. Old sheet film can be used as well. Cut the filter material (cut with a jagged edge, not straight across) to suit the scene, tape it in place onto your lens, and throw it away when you're finished. If you are using a view camera or an SLR, it is easy to exactly place the filtration and see the results. It helps if you first meter the scene so you know how much density you want. Play with it. Shoot as wide open as you can to avoid focus on the filter. Richard (Brooklyn) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by FRD
If you¹re shooting digital, ND filters (IMO) are pretty useless as you can either bracket and layer blend (better quality) or layer blend from a single digital raw file (easier). It¹s a lot more precise, you¹ll save some money and maybe even sharper images. The big question for me, however, is using a polarizing filter on a dSLR + wide angle lens. No matter how I turn it or position myself, the sky gets so blotchylarge swaths of dark blue to light blue. I can¹t seem to get all of it in one color... On 10/29/06 10:51 PM, "CorrPro96@..." <CorrPro96@...> wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 10/29/2006 10:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > boblovesphotos@... <mailto:boblovesphotos%40gmail.com> writes: > > I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground > is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees > look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? > > You need to use a neutral density filter over the bright areas of the scene. > Split filters are expensive, but you can do better if you make your own from > sheets of N.D. material. Old sheet film can be used as well. Cut the filter > material (cut with a jagged edge, not straight across) to suit the scene, > tape it in place onto your lens, and throw it away when you're finished. > If you are using a view camera or an SLR, it is easy to exactly place the > filtration and see the results. It helps if you first meter the scene so you > know how much density you want. Play with it. Shoot as wide open as you can to > avoid focus on the filter. > > Richard (Brooklyn) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by Tom Baker
I was thinking in terms of b&w for the orange filter. Obviously, it wouldn't work for color, but the polorazing filter will often do the trick. If not, as was mentioned, the graduated filters, or multiple exposures and blending in PS will work.
Tom Baker
Bob Cain <boblovesphotos@...> wrote:
I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground
is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees
look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips?
Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work:
http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781
--
Thanks,
Bob Cain
http://www.robertcain.info/photography
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-10-30 by Eric Neilsen
Split ND filter. ND= neutral density, works for both color and B&W. Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Cain Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Landscape bright background I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work: http://www.robertca <http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781> in.info/gallery/2055781 -- Thanks, Bob Cain http://www.robertca <http://www.robertcain.info/photography> in.info/photography [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by jim kitchen
Dear Bob, Check this site out for some incremental information, seeing that your work is digital... <http://www.farrarfocus.com/> A few techniques listed at this site, might guide you to a solution outside your camera, instead of using a filter. Then again, they probably use them too. Their approach is probably not novel, but their results and their methods, seem to work. jim k [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by Kent Messamore
This is an extremely simple problem to resolve if you shoot RAW and use Photoshop. Dr. Brown's Place-a-matic allows you to develop two images correctly exposed for the foreground and the background. Then merge with a graduated layer mask. Kent Messamore Kent Messamore K.Messamore@... _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Cain Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Landscape bright background I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work: http://www.robertca <http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781> in.info/gallery/2055781 -- Thanks, Bob Cain http://www.robertca <http://www.robertcain.info/photography> in.info/photography [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by ronleshuff
Yes and it's being overly used to PP images that have no shadow and completely one dimensional. It certainly is a useful tool, but one that is being abused. What I don't understand is the fawning over these captures that look faded out, colorless, muted, and no "pop" IMHO-----ron s.
----- Original Message ----- From: Kent Messamore To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Landscape bright background This is an extremely simple problem to resolve if you shoot RAW and use Photoshop. Dr. Brown's Place-a-matic allows you to develop two images correctly exposed for the foreground and the background. Then merge with a graduated layer mask. Kent Messamore Kent Messamore K.Messamore@... _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Cain Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Landscape bright background I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My foreground is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the sky. So trees look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes out? Any tips? Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work: http://www.robertca <http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781> in.info/gallery/2055781 -- Thanks, Bob Cain http://www.robertca <http://www.robertcain.info/photography> in.info/photography [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-11-01 by Bob Cain
Wow,
Thanks for the overwhelming responses. I will certainly implement what I
can. Here is a basic summary of what everyone said:
1. Shoot in Raw mode.
2. Get it right the first time, take many shots.
3. Blend two exposures / bracket and layer blend
1. **This is also called High Definition technique
2. Use a tripod and bracket the exposure and reassemble using
HDR (high-dynamic-range)
4. Buy a graduated neutral density filter, but many favored the
bracket method.
5. Use a contrast mask.
6. Use a polarizing filter.
1. Again many favored the bracket layer method.
7. Use and create your own Split filter.
8. Use "RAW Shooter Essentials".(replaced my adobe)
9. Use "bibblelite/bibblepro (4.9.0)"
Much appreciated by everyones response.
Bob
www.robertcain.info
On 10/29/06, Bob Cain <boblovesphotos@...> wrote:
>
> I have been having trouble lately photographing in daylight. My
> foreground is sometimes severly overshadowed by the bright light of the
> sky. So trees look to dark, and if I increase the shutter the sky washes
> out? Any tips?
>
> Here are some photos that did come out but probably still need work:
> http://www.robertcain.info/gallery/2055781
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Bob Cain
> http://www.robertcain.info/photography
--
Thanks,
Bob Cain
http://robertcain.smugmug.com/photography
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