Digital BW, The Print

In a message dated 11/27/06 5:33:33 PM, tzinzunzan2006@... writes:


> Any suggestions for good matte canvas?
> 

Not among the currently released ones... I'll be happy to make suggestions at 
a later date.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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> Any suggestions for good matte canvas?
> 

I've always disliked the canvas texture.  To me, it's as annoying as the
glass reflections.  So, I'm interested in trying this version of the
product:

http://www.premierimagingproducts.com/pm_smoothmattecanvas.php


I think with canvas there is also an issue of how one displays it.  The
bare-bones, un-framed stretched canvas that one photographer in our gallery
uses, to me, does not say "fine art."  I personally like frames that are
more associated with paintings than B&W photography, but, again, a comment
I've heard is that they just don't say, "fine art" -- at least to some.


Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

In a message dated 11/27/06 7:29:20 PM, paul.roark@... writes:


> I'd also like to know if there are any that don't have such a prominent
> canvas texture.
> 
Yes, that was one of my issues too; which is why I have been working with 
canvas in two textures. The finer one is great for smaller images where typical 
canvas texture would overwhelm the image.

>   I personally find that texture more annoying than the
> glass.  I also have some doubts as to whether such a product would sell as
> well as one that is more closely associated with the B&W "fine art"
> tradition.
> 
Actually, I find that the fine texture isn't necessary for large prints; they 
work well with the coarser weave. I would have agreed with you on the "fine 
art tradition" stuff, until I worked with the matte canvasses for a while. The 
response to the gallery of canvas prints at Photo Plus was quite overwhelming, 
no "yuck, its canvas", more like "wow, look at these canvasses!" People kept 
trying to buy them off the walls.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision.com
www.colorvision.com


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David,

>... The response to the gallery of canvas prints at Photo Plus 
> was quite overwhelming, ...

Were they just stretched and frame-less, or was there something else to the
presentation/display?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

In a message dated 11/27/06 9:02:10 PM, paul.roark@... writes:


> Were they just stretched and frame-less, or was there something else to the
> presentation/display?
> 

Two textures (fine and... canvas), two types of prints (full color and B&W). 
All stretched, with black matte tape on the edges. Thats it. They cost about 
$135 each at 2x3 feet, professionally printed (via PFP2 profiles for the canvas 
used, K3 inks), professionally stretched, and edged. Delivery was extra. 
Those of you who met Daniel at the B&W Print Meeting know the source; and the 
delivery method. <G>

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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In a message dated 11/27/06 9:09:59 PM, leonard.metcalf@... 
writes:


> Here in Australia, canvas prints seem to sell well, as they are the
> current vogue with purchasers. Though I am not sure if they are the
> fine art collectors that are in the fine art tradition.
> 

When someone offers me $3500 US for a stretched, unframed canvas, I tend to 
not care if he's a fine art tradition collector. I do still worry that the 
image is archival enough, though... <G>

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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In a message dated 11/28/06 12:15:47 PM, cieloblu@... writes:


> Interesting topic which I know very little about. I have some questions.  
> Some people print on canvas then stretch it.  Others do not. What are the 
> advantages and disadvantages of doing either? If you don't stretch it with 
> stretcher bars, how do you mount and hang it? Excuse my total igorance. I print 
> with the Epson 2400 in case there are things specific to the type of printer.
> 

The 2400 is really a sheet printer, and pretty small for stretched canvas, 
since a canvas is typically at least three inches larger than the image size in 
both directions for stretching. Also, canvas is typically a roll product, but 
not tiny rolls: big rolls at least two, ideally three inches inside diameter. 
So you would be looking for a sheet canvas to treat like sheet paper, and 
would probably end up mounting it like sheet paper as well.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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