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2006-12-22 by Terry Ritz
I've just finished cutting up my first set of prints made on Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl (2200 / MIS Pro). On some prints I had flaking on the edges, which is quite noticable since the background is black. I have a good quality rotary trimmer and have not had this issue before. Has anyone noticed this before with FAP? Terry.
2006-12-22 by will gibson
Terry, Yes, That happens to me too. I have dry mounted the prints for exhibition and my work around was to leave a very small edge of white around the image to hide the flaking. Don't suspect there's a good way of cutting a black cleanly and having it not be a ragged edge. Just the nature of the paper. Will Terry Ritz wrote:
>I've just finished cutting up my first set of prints made on Hahnemuhle Fine >Art Pearl (2200 / MIS Pro). On some prints I had flaking on the edges, which >is quite noticable since the background is black. I have a good quality >rotary trimmer and have not had this issue before. > >Has anyone noticed this before with FAP? > >Terry. > > > >
2006-12-22 by Peter Palmieri
I am not getting good results with FAP. Perhaps it is the media setting that I am using with an Epson 4800? I am using the Premium Luster (250) setting. Which media setting would be recommended for this paper? Peter
----- Original Message ----- From: will gibson To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl & Flaking Terry, Yes, That happens to me too. I have dry mounted the prints for exhibition and my work around was to leave a very small edge of white around the image to hide the flaking. Don't suspect there's a good way of cutting a black cleanly and having it not be a ragged edge. Just the nature of the paper. Will Terry Ritz wrote: >I've just finished cutting up my first set of prints made on Hahnemuhle Fine >Art Pearl (2200 / MIS Pro). On some prints I had flaking on the edges, which >is quite noticable since the background is black. I have a good quality >rotary trimmer and have not had this issue before. > >Has anyone noticed this before with FAP? > >Terry. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-12-22 by David Whistance
Peter Hahnemuhle recommend Premium Semi Gloss on their website: http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/downloads/62/Print_Instruction_Epson.pdf. Regards David Whistance
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Peter Palmieri Sent: 22 December 2006 16:19 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl & Flaking I am not getting good results with FAP. Perhaps it is the media setting that I am using with an Epson 4800? I am using the Premium Luster (250) setting. Which media setting would be recommended for this paper? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: will gibson To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl & Flaking Terry, Yes, That happens to me too. I have dry mounted the prints for exhibition and my work around was to leave a very small edge of white around the image to hide the flaking. Don't suspect there's a good way of cutting a black cleanly and having it not be a ragged edge. Just the nature of the paper. Will Terry Ritz wrote: >I've just finished cutting up my first set of prints made on Hahnemuhle Fine >Art Pearl (2200 / MIS Pro). On some prints I had flaking on the edges, which >is quite noticable since the background is black. I have a good quality >rotary trimmer and have not had this issue before. > >Has anyone noticed this before with FAP? > >Terry. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-12-22 by Peter Palmieri
Thanks--much appreciated! Peter Peter Hahnemuhle recommend Premium Semi Gloss on their website: http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/downloads/62/Print_Instruction_Epson.pdf. Regards David Whistance I am not getting good results with FAP. Perhaps it is the media setting that I am using with an Epson 4800? I am using the Premium Luster (250) setting. Which media setting would be recommended for this paper? Peter
----- Original Message ----- From: will gibson To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl & Flaking Terry, Yes, That happens to me too. I have dry mounted the prints for exhibition and my work around was to leave a very small edge of white around the image to hide the flaking. Don't suspect there's a good way of cutting a black cleanly and having it not be a ragged edge. Just the nature of the paper. Will Terry Ritz wrote: >I've just finished cutting up my first set of prints made on Hahnemuhle Fine >Art Pearl (2200 / MIS Pro). On some prints I had flaking on the edges, which >is quite noticable since the background is black. I have a good quality >rotary trimmer and have not had this issue before. > >Has anyone noticed this before with FAP? > >Terry. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-12-23 by Terry Ritz
Thanks for the feedback Will. I was unsure if it was the ink, paper or (least likely) my cutter. I'm going to try the same print using Innova F-Type Gloss with the hope that it fares better. I would prefer not to leave a white border. Terry.
> will gibson wrote: > > Yes, That happens to me too. I have dry mounted the prints for > exhibition and my work around was to leave a very small edge of white > around the image to hide the flaking. Don't suspect there's a > good way > of cutting a black cleanly and having it not be a ragged > edge. Just the > nature of the paper.
2006-12-23 by Terry Ritz
I found the best balance between DMAX and shadow detail on an Epson 2200 running MIS Pro inks was to use the Premium Glossy setting. Terry.
> Peter Palmieri wrote: > I am not getting good results with FAP. Perhaps it is the > media setting that I am using with an Epson 4800? I am using > the Premium Luster (250) setting. Which media setting would > be recommended for this paper? > > Peter
2006-12-23 by Peter Palmieri
No matter whether I use a custom made profile, Hahnemuhle's profile for FAP or just choosing the 4800's ICM, the prints I am getting still look "muddy". I have used different media settings, including Premium Semi-Gloss (250). Premium Glossy (250) and Premium Luster (250) with the mentioned profiles without success. Too, I have done a power clean thinking that could be a problem. Then I adjusted the paper thickness to .4mm in the Epson's driver. No matter which set of variables I use the prints are still appear "muddy". A first glance gives the impression that the wrong side of the paper was used to make the print. I wish that was the cause. There is one constant, and that is the paper. Good thing I didn't buy larger sizes of this paper! Thanks for your help and happy holidays to all. Peter
----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Ritz To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:21 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl & Flaking I found the best balance between DMAX and shadow detail on an Epson 2200 running MIS Pro inks was to use the Premium Glossy setting. Terry. > Peter Palmieri wrote: > I am not getting good results with FAP. Perhaps it is the > media setting that I am using with an Epson 4800? I am using > the Premium Luster (250) setting. Which media setting would > be recommended for this paper? > > Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-12-23 by Michael King
Peter you are not going to get a great dmax on this paper. Best one can do is about L*7 vs 2.5 for something like Premium Luster. Its great for images where you don't have / care about deep blacks and where you want detail held in the highlights. It really holds detail in the highlights well. Horses for courses. Mike On 23/12/06, Peter Palmieri <pcpalmieri@...> wrote: > > No matter whether I use a custom made profile, Hahnemuhle's profile for > FAP or just choosing the 4800's ICM, the prints I am getting still look > "muddy". I have used different media settings, including Premium Semi-Gloss > (250). Premium Glossy (250) and Premium Luster (250) with the mentioned > profiles without success. Too, I have done a power clean thinking that could > be a problem. Then I adjusted the paper thickness to .4mm in the Epson's > driver. No matter which set of variables I use the prints are still appear > "muddy". A first glance gives the impression that the wrong side of the > paper was used to make the print. I wish that was the cause. > > There is one constant, and that is the paper. > > Good thing I didn't buy larger sizes of this paper! > > Thanks for your help and happy holidays to all. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Ritz > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:21 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl & Flaking > > I found the best balance between DMAX and shadow detail on an Epson 2200 > running MIS Pro inks was to use the Premium Glossy setting. > > Terry. > > > Peter Palmieri wrote: > > > I am not getting good results with FAP. Perhaps it is the > > media setting that I am using with an Epson 4800? I am using > > the Premium Luster (250) setting. Which media setting would > > be recommended for this paper? > > > > Peter > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]