From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
steveh0607
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 7:40 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel
Mixer Conversion Tool?
--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "btvarner" <bthomasv@...>
wrote:
>
I've played around with both Lightroom 4.1 and PS3 Beta and from what I can
see so far
the new Camera Raw 4.0 in PS3 has the same development module as Lightroom.
If you
don't need to sort through and manage very large volumes (and I think this
is why
Lightroom was developed - plus being an answer to Aperture), stick with PS3.
As for black and white conversion PS3 has tools in a drop-down menu. Several
conversion
methods are offered including an "auto" tool that analyzes the photo (tone
distribution?)
then creates a conversion with a smooth tonal transition. You can then
adjust as you see
fit using the sliders and save as a pre-set.
One thing I did notice about PS3 is that the Film Grain filter is gone as a
stand-alone (at
least I couldn't find it). "Grain" can be applied using the "Noise" filter
with a choice of either
"Gaussian", or "Uniform" distribution. This is awkward.
I have my eye on Black and White Styler from Photo Wiz which looks like it
may be very
good. I'll have to wait for the Mac version to be released though.
> <gcwagner@> wrote:
> >
> > I have tried the B&W Channel Mixer in PS3 and it is very similar to
> >the one in Lightroom. I am trying to determine where Lightroom fits
> >into my work flow. I have been using the PS2 Bridge without issue.
> >How or why are are others using Lightroom?
> > Thanks,
> > Gary W.
>
> Gary,
> I have only been fooling with Lightroom for a few hours however
> already I feel it will be a help in my work flow.
>
> I currently convert my images to B&W through Channel Mixer in CS2.
> Many times I have noticed that I cannot seem to get the look I am
> after and must go back & tweak the color setting in an awkward way in
> order to bring out some of the specific details I am after.
>
> I have tried several of these difficult images using Lightroom and
> the ability to move the color sliders in Lightroom's Grayscale Mixer
> seems to work in a way that seems more natural & effective to me.
>
> The second thing I find great about Lightroom is the way that the
> Tone Curve can be adjusted through both the sliders and the
> histogram. I do not think that any of this cannot be accomplished in
> CS2 & I have heard that CS3 (I have not downloaded it yet) will have
> some of the adjustments like Lightroom. I'm thinking it will be of
> benefit to the way I process images.
>
> Having said all that there are some things I don't like. Having to
> import an image before working on it seems unnecessary to me for one.
>
> I will work the beta into my workflow for a while. Then test CS3.
> If Lightroom does everything I need with CS2 & CS3 does not have any
> new features I cannot live without, I may just get Lightroom & stick
> with CS2??? Too early to tell yet.
>
> Merry Christmas!
>
> Bruce
> http://BruceVarner. <http://BruceVarner.com> com
>
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