Digital BW, The Print

In a message dated 1/2/07 1:59:08 PM, goch@... writes:


> During the Silver era, you could get perfectly competent, no-nonsense 
> information from Kodak, Ilford, Agfa and other manufacturers about 
> how to use their products. You could not go wrong starting with their 
> recommendations. Now we are offered products with incomplete, obtuse 
> or non-existent information for proper use. 
> 
Yes, it is a faster era, with less printed documentation. But if you had used 
one brand of developer with another brand of paper and a third company's 
stop, with some custom toners added after the fact, then you wouldn't have gotten 
comprehensive directions from a single source even back then. Now you are 
using one company's printer, another's papers, yet another's inks, and finally 
someone else's color management tools, so there are gaps in there...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...m
www.colorvision.com


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Not to mention, that at the dawn of photography, it was equally (no, more. MUCH more) 
experimental, even though there were established companies providing chemistry and 
hardware to eager young (and old) would be photographers; many of them seasoned 
artists to boot!

Let's not forget that this is a whole new paradign and things will be in confused flux for a 
good while yet. I'm struggling to get a grip on it all myself (also an accomplished darkrrom 
practitioner). It is frustrating; but also VERY exciting!

Cheers. And best of luck!

-Guy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, CDTobie@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 1/2/07 1:59:08 PM, goch@... writes:
> 
> 
> > During the Silver era, you could get perfectly competent, no-nonsense 
> > information from Kodak, Ilford, Agfa and other manufacturers about 
> > how to use their products. You could not go wrong starting with their 
> > recommendations. Now we are offered products with incomplete, obtuse 
> > or non-existent information for proper use. 
> > 
> Yes, it is a faster era, with less printed documentation. But if you had used 
> one brand of developer with another brand of paper and a third company's 
> stop, with some custom toners added after the fact, then you wouldn't have gotten 
> comprehensive directions from a single source even back then. Now you are 
> using one company's printer, another's papers, yet another's inks, and finally 
> someone else's color management tools, so there are gaps in there...
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
> 
> 
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In a message dated 1/2/2007 1:59:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, goch@... 
writes:
If these things are too complex to be  
explained by the manufacturer or supplier, this fact should be  
clearly conveyed to buyers so that people who prefer not to learn by  
guess and by gosh can choose another product and get on with their  
photography.

Myron
Hi Myron:
That is why these forums are so valuable to us. There are so many ways to 
skin this cat.....
For starters, ask a question that will carry you to your next question and 
someone will try to give you an answer, or a starting point for your own 
experimentation.

Richard (Brooklyn)


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