Digital BW, The Print

I just got around to testing the RC papers that came in the Lumijet 
sample pack.... One in particular, the "True Pearl" gave me a 2.57 with 
the K3 inks on the 3800, at the 'normal' settings. As comparison, Epson 
Semi-matte produced a 2.36 at the same settings. 

Does anybody know anything about the stability of this paper?

Regards,

Steve Karafyllakis

Sorry, the paper's proper name is : Lumijet Genuine Pearl II 255

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> I just got around to testing the RC papers that came in the Lumijet 
> sample pack.... One in particular, the "True Pearl" gave me a 2.57 
with 
> the K3 inks on the 3800, at the 'normal' settings. As comparison, 
Epson 

> Semi-matte produced a 2.36 at the same settings. 
> 
> Does anybody know anything about the stability of this paper?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
>

Steve,

Did you like the paper in aspects other than Dmax? Bronzing, GD? Is 
it warm or cool?

I wonder how the Dmax changes with dry down. I have noticed Dmax drop 
in the range of 0.1 units overnight with K3 PK loaded on my 4000 with 
most RC papers including Innova F and Crane Silver Rag. But when you 
start at 2.5, that drop is not consequential at all, especially when 
it is more than regained with GLOP overcoat.

Happy New Year!

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, the paper's proper name is : Lumijet Genuine Pearl II 255
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > I just got around to testing the RC papers that came in the 
Lumijet 
> > sample pack.... One in particular, the "True Pearl" gave me a 
2.57 

> with 
> > the K3 inks on the 3800, at the 'normal' settings. As comparison, 
> Epson 
> > Semi-matte produced a 2.36 at the same settings. 
> > 
> > Does anybody know anything about the stability of this paper?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Steve Karafyllakis
> >
>

Shilesh;

Initial reading was after a good blast with a hair dryer... 3 hrs or 
drying later its down to a mere 2.53. I can live with that.

The surface has a very fine-toothed pearl/semimatte finish, not too 
reflective, easy to live with. It's on the warm side: Lab readings on 
the white were:
L= 94.25  a= 1.37  b= -4.22  

No bronzing, but the Epson inks showed GD, being glossier than the 
paper surface. The MIS inks had almost no GD at all, but also had a 
lower dmax: 2.39 after 24hrs of dry-up 

I'll put it out in the torture window tomorrow,& keep you posted.

And a Happy New Year to you!

Steve Karafyllakis



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shileshjani@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> 
> Did you like the paper in aspects other than Dmax? Bronzing, GD? Is 
> it warm or cool?
> 
> I wonder how the Dmax changes with dry down. I have noticed Dmax 
drop 
> in the range of 0.1 units overnight with K3 PK loaded on my 4000 
with 
> most RC papers including Innova F and Crane Silver Rag. But when 
you 
> start at 2.5, that drop is not consequential at all, especially 
when 
> it is more than regained with GLOP overcoat.
> 
> Happy New Year!
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, the paper's proper name is : Lumijet Genuine Pearl II 255
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> > Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got around to testing the RC papers that came in the 
> Lumijet 
> > > sample pack.... One in particular, the "True Pearl" gave me a 
> 2.57 
> > with 
> > > the K3 inks on the 3800, at the 'normal' settings. As 
comparison, 

> > Epson 
> > > Semi-matte produced a 2.36 at the same settings. 
> > > 
> > > Does anybody know anything about the stability of this paper?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Steve Karafyllakis
> > >
> >
>

>Sorry, the paper's proper name is : Lumijet Genuine Pearl II 255

Wonder how this paper compares to my favorite paper: Innova Fiba-Gloss F...

Dave.

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David;

I measured the warm version of that paper a while back; uncoated it 
gave me a 2.5  A day later I gave it a couple light coats of MIS Gloss 
Optimizer, and a few hours later it measured a 2.85, not only the 
highest reading I've gotten, but probably the biggest shift as well. 
Now, a couple months later its down to ...only 2.74!!!

And of course the rag paper looks and feels like a much higher quality 
product, at least while its in your hand. Not sure how much difference 
that would make behind glass.

The RC paper is also very inexpensive, about .47 US a sheet. But we 
don't have any idea how it will hold up at this point, I wouldn't buy 
too much of it, or trust it to archival applications just yet.

Regards

Steven Karafyllakis


> Wonder how this paper compares to my favorite paper: Innova Fiba-
Gloss F...

> 
> Dave.
> 
> --

Hmm. Steve, I presume these numbers are for Fiba Glossy F Warm. With 
the "cool" version of the paper and my 4000 loaded with 4800 PK, I 
have not hit these astronomically high numbers after GLOP. I control 
ink density with QTR, and the GLOP I use is from another source. 
Maybe I should try the MIS GLOP? Maybe the 3800 dither also helps?

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> David;
> 
> I measured the warm version of that paper a while back; uncoated it 
> gave me a 2.5  A day later I gave it a couple light coats of MIS 
Gloss 
> Optimizer, and a few hours later it measured a 2.85, not only the 
> highest reading I've gotten, but probably the biggest shift as 
well. 
> Now, a couple months later its down to ...only 2.74!!!
> 
> And of course the rag paper looks and feels like a much higher 
quality 
> product, at least while its in your hand. Not sure how much 
difference 
> that would make behind glass.
> 
> The RC paper is also very inexpensive, about .47 US a sheet. But we 
> don't have any idea how it will hold up at this point, I wouldn't 
buy 

> too much of it, or trust it to archival applications just yet.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis
> 
> 
> > Wonder how this paper compares to my favorite paper: Innova Fiba-
> Gloss F...
> > 
> > Dave.
> > 
> > --
>

Shilesh;

That test patch was done a couple months back on Clayton's 2400 with 
Epson PK. And yes, they struck me as being astronomical too. I don't 
have any more on hand or I'd try it again just to see if I can repeat 
the results. That result made me wonder if my nice new spectro was 
out-of-whack, but everything else it comes up with seems reasonable, 
so... 

Steve Karafyllakis



-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shileshjani@...> wrote:
>
> Hmm. Steve, I presume these numbers are for Fiba Glossy F Warm. 
With 
> the "cool" version of the paper and my 4000 loaded with 4800 PK, I 
> have not hit these astronomically high numbers after GLOP. I 
control 
> ink density with QTR, and the GLOP I use is from another source. 
> Maybe I should try the MIS GLOP? Maybe the 3800 dither also helps?
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > David;
> > 
> > I measured the warm version of that paper a while back; uncoated 
it 
> > gave me a 2.5  A day later I gave it a couple light coats of MIS 
> Gloss 
> > Optimizer, and a few hours later it measured a 2.85, not only the 
> > highest reading I've gotten, but probably the biggest shift as 
> well. 
> > Now, a couple months later its down to ...only 2.74!!!
> > 
> > And of course the rag paper looks and feels like a much higher 
> quality 
> > product, at least while its in your hand. Not sure how much 
> difference 
> > that would make behind glass.
> > 
> > The RC paper is also very inexpensive, about .47 US a sheet. But 
we 
> > don't have any idea how it will hold up at this point, I wouldn't 
> buy 
> > too much of it, or trust it to archival applications just yet.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Steven Karafyllakis
> > 
> > 
> > > Wonder how this paper compares to my favorite paper: Innova 
Fiba-

> > Gloss F...
> > > 
> > > Dave.
> > > 
> > > --
> >
>

Ah, I see, it was on a 2400. Did you use ABW? I am going to have to 
try the paper on my 2400.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> Shilesh;
> 
> That test patch was done a couple months back on Clayton's 2400 
with 
> Epson PK. And yes, they struck me as being astronomical too. I 
don't 
> have any more on hand or I'd try it again just to see if I can 
repeat 
> the results. That result made me wonder if my nice new spectro was 
> out-of-whack, but everything else it comes up with seems 
reasonable, 
> so... 
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> 
> 
> -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> <shileshjani@> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. Steve, I presume these numbers are for Fiba Glossy F Warm. 
> With 
> > the "cool" version of the paper and my 4000 loaded with 4800 PK, 
I 
> > have not hit these astronomically high numbers after GLOP. I 
> control 
> > ink density with QTR, and the GLOP I use is from another source. 
> > Maybe I should try the MIS GLOP? Maybe the 3800 dither also helps?
> > 
> > Shilesh
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> > Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> > >
> > > David;
> > > 
> > > I measured the warm version of that paper a while back; 
uncoated 
> it 
> > > gave me a 2.5  A day later I gave it a couple light coats of 
MIS 
> > Gloss 
> > > Optimizer, and a few hours later it measured a 2.85, not only 
the 
> > > highest reading I've gotten, but probably the biggest shift as 
> > well. 
> > > Now, a couple months later its down to ...only 2.74!!!
> > > 
> > > And of course the rag paper looks and feels like a much higher 
> > quality 
> > > product, at least while its in your hand. Not sure how much 
> > difference 
> > > that would make behind glass.
> > > 
> > > The RC paper is also very inexpensive, about .47 US a sheet. 
But 
> we 
> > > don't have any idea how it will hold up at this point, I 
wouldn't 

> > buy 
> > > too much of it, or trust it to archival applications just yet.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Steven Karafyllakis
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Wonder how this paper compares to my favorite paper: Innova 
> Fiba-
> > > Gloss F...
> > > > 
> > > > Dave.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > >
> >
>