Digital BW, The Print

djon43 <djon43@...> previously wrote:

"...it's important to realize that we're about to transition into a
new world of pigments and papers that will be as wonderful in new
printers as old. Todays inks/pigments won't be sellable shortly.
Entirely new standards will apply."

What is the source of this information? Is this speculation or is
there evidence to support it? If so, where is this evidence? It's not
that I doubt it, I'm just trying to asses how the conclusion was
arrived at.

Thanks,

Rick Colson

Sorry, need to know basis only  ;-)

From: Rick Colson <colson@...>
Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:22:39 -0000
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Digital BW] Future inks

 
 
 

djon43 <djon43@... <mailto:djon43%40yahoo.com> > previously wrote:

"...it's important to realize that we're about to transition into a
new world of pigments and papers that will be as wonderful in new
printers as old. Todays inks/pigments won't be sellable shortly.
Entirely new standards will apply."

What is the source of this information? Is this speculation or is
there evidence to support it? If so, where is this evidence? It's not
that I doubt it, I'm just trying to asses how the conclusion was
arrived at.

Thanks,

Rick Colson

 
  


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Colson"
<colson@...> wrote:
>
> djon43 <djon43@...> previously wrote:
> 
> "...it's important to realize that we're about to transition into a
> new world of pigments and papers that will be as wonderful in new
> printers as old. Todays inks/pigments won't be sellable shortly.
> Entirely new standards will apply."
> 
> What is the source of this information? Is this speculation or is
> there evidence to support it? If so, where is this evidence? It's not
> that I doubt it, I'm just trying to asses how the conclusion was
> arrived at.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick Colson
>


Claria dye inks are a start. Not saying that they are the first dye
ink to give decent longevity on matte papers, but they are certainly
the most mass market. Dmax of the K3 pigment inks and the reduction in
metamerism with those inks. UV cure is moving right along in the
higher volume print world, to where we might at some point see UV cure
in our large format printers.

Now whether the old inks will still be viable or not I'll leave to
other people.

Note to worriers: I'm a former commercial photographer
(food/products/San Francisco), custom photolab machinery sales guy
(managed sales on West Coast for a German company that made 52"
processing machines), graphic design broker, and recruiter. Recruiters
attend closely to what connected people say and as a result are
typically ahead of PR here and there.

I have absolutely no financial relationship with anybody who makes
money from paper/ink/printer, or any publication, but I'm a careful
reader. I'm not notably level-headed, but not dense or looney. And I'm
ethical, partially because it makes good business sense. 

Again: Better inks and papers are coming for new machines and old.
Chicken in every pot, blacker blacks from old machines in 2008, etc. 

I suspect Wilhelm won't even be cited in 2008.

Razor blades Vs razors:  licensing rather than manufacture of ink and
paper, letting multiple downstream client companies operate factories,
is the future.

Selling the most desirable inks and papers through venues other than
big box stores and a few slick websites will not make sense, if only
because of the cost of handling and shipping small orders. Everybody
knows that, right?  

Epson still markets 1280... some of the best prints I've seen recently
been freshly printed with that antique using current MIS inks. It'll
work even better in 2008. Nobody in their right minds would target
"professionals" with products when they could target the gigantic
installed base of miscellaneous smaller machines of various brands. 

John/Djon (I use both names online)


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
<stevekale@...> wrote:

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> Sorry, need to know basis only  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Rick Colson <colson@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:22:39 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Future inks
> 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> djon43 <djon43@... <mailto:djon43%40yahoo.com> > previously wrote:
> 
> "...it's important to realize that we're about to transition into a
> new world of pigments and papers that will be as wonderful in new
> printers as old. Todays inks/pigments won't be sellable shortly.
> Entirely new standards will apply."
> 
> What is the source of this information? Is this speculation or is
> there evidence to support it? If so, where is this evidence? It's not
> that I doubt it, I'm just trying to asses how the conclusion was
> arrived at.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick Colson
> 
>  
>   
> 
> 
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