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2007-03-12 by Johnny Eades
I have a laptop that I edit my photo work on, and I've noticed the change in the image depending on the angle of the screen. Does anyone have a routine that will enable me to set it at the correct tilt so the image values are correct and will print correctly matched to the screen. The system is calibrated with SpyderPro and my profiles are created with PrintFixPro 2.1 Your friend in Photography, Johnny
2007-03-12 by Mark Savoia
Get an external monitor if you really want things to match your prints. Laptop screens are only so good. Mark
On Mar 12, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Johnny Eades wrote: > I have a laptop that I edit my photo work on, and I've noticed the > change in the image depending on the angle of the screen. Does anyone > have a routine that will enable me to set it at the correct tilt so > the > image values are correct and will print correctly matched to the > screen. The system is calibrated with SpyderPro and my profiles are > created with PrintFixPro 2.1 > > > Your friend in Photography, > > Johnny > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -------------------- > ~--> > Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. > http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2007-03-12 by Eric Neilsen Photo
Johnny, I have mine set to about 100 degrees,perhaps a bit less. I also find it important to stay in the center for viewing. Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 214-827-8301 http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype : ejprinter
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Mark Savoia > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:24 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Position of laptop screen > > Get an external monitor if you really want things to match your > prints. Laptop screens are only so good. > Mark > > On Mar 12, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Johnny Eades wrote: > > > I have a laptop that I edit my photo work on, and I've > noticed the > > change in the image depending on the angle of the screen. > Does anyone > > have a routine that will enable me to set it at the correct > tilt so > > the > > image values are correct and will print correctly matched to > the > > screen. The system is calibrated with SpyderPro and my > profiles are > > created with PrintFixPro 2.1 > > > > > > Your friend in Photography, > > > > Johnny > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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2007-03-13 by CDTobie@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/07 1:22:46 PM, jeades1@... writes: > I have a laptop that I edit my photo work on, and I've noticed the > change in the image depending on the angle of the screen. Does anyone > have a routine that will enable me to set it at the correct tilt so the > image values are correct and will print correctly matched to the > screen. The system is calibrated with SpyderPro and my profiles are > created with PrintFixPro 2.1 > Laptops, in order to save battery power, use a narrow band of full brightness (kind of like how a lighthouse takes a light source, and uses fresnel lens to turn it into a narrow band aimed out towards the horizon). This means you should have your eyes perpendicular to a laptop screen to see the right "gamma". One reason why laptops are not ideal for image editing. I tend to shift my head up and down until I'm sure I'm in the "sweet zone" before making final judgements on a laptop screen, if I don't have a calibrated desktop monitor available at the time. C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager ColorVision Business Unit Datacolor Inc. CDTobie@... www.colorvision.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-03-13 by Paul Roark
CDTobie wrote: >Laptops, in order to save battery power, use a narrow band of >full brightness (kind of like how a lighthouse takes a light >source, and uses fresnel lens to turn it into a narrow band >aimed out towards the horizon). This means you >should have your eyes perpendicular to a laptop screen to see >the right "gamma". Is there a product that can reverse this, temporarily, when, for example, you're trying to show someone else a procedure you're doing on the laptop? I wonder if there is something like those plastic rear van window "lenses" that would spread the light. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2007-03-14 by CDTobie@aol.com
In a message dated 3/13/07 4:27:23 PM, paul.roark@... writes: > >Laptops, in order to save battery power, use a narrow band of > >full brightness (kind of like how a lighthouse takes a light > >source, and uses fresnel lens to turn it into a narrow band > >aimed out towards the horizon). This means you > >should have your eyes perpendicular to a laptop screen to see > >the right "gamma". > > Is there a product that can reverse this, temporarily, when, for example, > you're trying to show someone else a procedure you're doing on the laptop? > I wonder if there is something like those plastic rear van window "lenses" > that would spread the light. > That would be a fresnel lens, which is what Apple uses to aim all sections of their large LCDs at the same point for viewing consistancy in the first place; you are looking for an inverse lens that would spread it all out again. Its really the vertical direction that is most heavily adjusted, so it would be more a matter of a 2d lens (a fresnel bar lens) that could be applied to the screen. It would make it all evenly dim, instead of having a sbright band at perpendicular and dimmer viewing from other vertical angles. You'd have to have it designed specificly to compensate for your monitor's banding (rather like special perscription contact lenses for laptops) and you'd have to calibrate your monitor with it in place... rather a tricky situation, and it would probably cause visible banding on screen, from the interaction of the screen pixel rows and the fresnel lens segments, a Moire effect. There is a product to do the reverse, to limit horizontal visibility even further for privacy on planes, etc... so I won't say its impossible. C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager ColorVision Business Division DataColor Inc. CDTobie@... www.colorvision.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]