Digital BW, The Print

Dear Roy & C. David and all,

Many thanks for the discussion about grayscale drivers and ICC profiles.  I list myself 
among the technically challenged in the digital age, so I do not follow your arguments that 
well.  Nevertheless, I glean something from them.

I do have a question regarding softproofing and ABW, however.  Is there a way I can see a 
softproof using ABW?  I confess I tried QTR when I had a 2200.  I also confess I did not 
understand what I was doing and did not follow how the process worked.  So I abandoned 
it, worked on color images, and bought a 3800 when the 2200 died.

I am now slowly trying to test its capabilities using Bill Atkinson's targets, which he so 
generously shares, in determining what each color space/paper/paper profile/media type 
looks like.  I realize that once one settles on a basic combo, the fine-tuning begins, with 
regard to ink density, etc.

I'm scratching my head on what is the best way to glean information about the ABW 
grayscale driver in a useful, efficient fashion.  Anyone's recommendations on that chore 
would be gratefully received.  Trying to judge how a specific tint/neutral/dark/darker 
combination will look on your print using only the tiny little picture Epson provides doesn't 
cut it in my view.

Thank you all in advance for your suggestions in plumbing the depths of this business.  Or 
at least getting my feet wet.

Cheers,

Christy

Hi Christy,

You can create custom grayscale ICC profiles for printing and softproofing
using the QTR tool QTR-Create-ICC.  The softproofing allows ink black and paper
white simulation as well as showing the hue of the print based on what you've 
selected in the ABW driver.

Roy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "caostebbins" <caostebbins@...> 
wrote:
>
> Dear Roy & C. David and all,
> 
> Many thanks for the discussion about grayscale drivers and ICC profiles.  I list myself 
> among the technically challenged in the digital age, so I do not follow your arguments 
that 
> well.  Nevertheless, I glean something from them.
> 
> I do have a question regarding softproofing and ABW, however.  Is there a way I can see 
a 
> softproof using ABW?  I confess I tried QTR when I had a 2200.  I also confess I did not 
> understand what I was doing and did not follow how the process worked.  So I 
abandoned 
> it, worked on color images, and bought a 3800 when the 2200 died.
> 
> I am now slowly trying to test its capabilities using Bill Atkinson's targets, which he so 
> generously shares, in determining what each color space/paper/paper profile/media 
type 
> looks like.  I realize that once one settles on a basic combo, the fine-tuning begins, with 
> regard to ink density, etc.
> 
> I'm scratching my head on what is the best way to glean information about the ABW 
> grayscale driver in a useful, efficient fashion.  Anyone's recommendations on that chore 
> would be gratefully received.  Trying to judge how a specific tint/neutral/dark/darker 
> combination will look on your print using only the tiny little picture Epson provides 
doesn't 
> cut it in my view.
> 
> Thank you all in advance for your suggestions in plumbing the depths of this business.  
Or 

> at least getting my feet wet.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christy
>

Christy, all this was described in great details in 
http://www.outbackphoto.com/printinginsights/pi045/essay.html#20070123
.

I would also suggest this reading to our resident PFP evangelist...

--Sergei

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" 
<roy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Christy,
> 
> You can create custom grayscale ICC profiles for printing and 
softproofing
> using the QTR tool QTR-Create-ICC.  The softproofing allows ink 
black and paper
> white simulation as well as showing the hue of the print based on 
what you've 

> selected in the ABW driver.
> 
> Roy