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Does anyone know how entrada natural compares to H photo rag in terms 
of warmth? Is it less warm or more or the same?

At 02:25 PM Thursday 6/14/2007, you wrote:
>Does anyone know how entrada natural compares to H photo rag in terms 
>of warmth? Is it less warm or more or the same?

It's a bit warmer.

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
<cieloblu@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how entrada natural compares to H photo rag in terms 
> of warmth? Is it less warm or more or the same?
>

Natural is distinctly cream colored. Don't use it if you want bright
white. Entrada Bright is nearly (not) as white as EEM . 

Moab Kayenta (new name >?) is whiter than EEM, Entrada Bright or HPR
(whiter than anything else, perhaps)  but is marketed as a "proofing"
paper for Bright. I wouldn't be surprised if Kayenta was more stable
than any whitened rag paper. It appears faintly higher resolution than
Entrada Bright but I sometimes don't like its faintly grained texture
as much in small (letter size) prints.

Unfortunately, Kayenta is dead...
http://www.moabpaper.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=112

John


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
> <cieloblu@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know how entrada natural compares to H photo rag in 
terms 
> > of warmth? Is it less warm or more or the same?
> >
> 
> Natural is distinctly cream colored. Don't use it if you want bright
> white. Entrada Bright is nearly (not) as white as EEM . 
> 
> Moab Kayenta (new name >?) is whiter than EEM, Entrada Bright or HPR
> (whiter than anything else, perhaps)  but is marketed as 
a "proofing"
> paper for Bright. I wouldn't be surprised if Kayenta was more stable
> than any whitened rag paper. It appears faintly higher resolution 
than
> Entrada Bright but I sometimes don't like its faintly grained 
texture
> as much in small (letter size) prints.
>

> Unfortunately, Kayenta is dead...

Not exactly. Only the name "Kayenta" is dead. Kayenta is effectively
being renamed to Lasal Photo Matte. Same paper, different name.

Just like "Enhanced Matte" is now called "Ultra Premium Presentation
Paper Matte" (say that five times quickly ...).

Eric

Phew!  That's good to know.  I really like that paper.

Rem

>
> > Unfortunately, Kayenta is dead...
> 
> Not exactly. Only the name "Kayenta" is dead. Kayenta is effectively
> being renamed to Lasal Photo Matte. Same paper, different name.
> 
> Just like "Enhanced Matte" is now called "Ultra Premium Presentation
> Paper Matte" (say that five times quickly ...).
> 
> Eric
>

>> Unfortunately, Kayenta is dead...

> Not exactly. Only the name "Kayenta" is dead. Kayenta is 
> effectively being renamed to Lasal Photo Matte. 
> Same paper, different name.

My information from Legion/Moab is that Lasal is a replacement for Kayenta,
but it's an upgraded technology.  According to this Legion spokesperson,
it's a different paper and new profiles will be needed.

I should have a sample pack next week and, if I get it before I leave for
the first session of Golden Trout, will let you know how it compares.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Sorry, I goofed -- you are right.

I got mixed up: Entrada and Somerset are staying the same. But Kayenta
is being replaced by Lasal Photo Matte.

Eric