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Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.

Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.

2002-01-30 by SKID Photography

Helene,
I cannot help it if you can't comprehend english.  The concept is very
straightforward, and by your answer you seem to understand it.

You might disagree, but it seems do obvious that there are *things* between tree
branches in a forest (beyond sky) that would be good to render.

I do not feel the need to site a reference, since I did not mention it in my
original post.

Finally, I have seen this problem with my own eyes, it has been widely reported
in many write-ups in print and on the web and even, and on this list.  If you
don't want to believe me, fine.  Why don't you just try it yourself.  I am not
selling this equipment and I don't really give a dam if you believe me or not.

It was a dumb question that you already had the answer to, and I responded in
kind.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC

PS:  I am especially on edge today as our brand new Epson 7000 arrived damaged
by the trucking company. UGH!  It will be taken care of, but it sure is
annoying.


grdglass@... wrote:

>  Harvey,
>
> I find your sarcastic tone offensive.
>
> I see sky "*BETWEEN*" tree branches.  Squirrels?  Hardly.  Rocks?  Hardly.
> Birds?  Rarely.
>
> Perhaps you are so defensive because you mis-interpreted what you read, or
> put your own spin on it.  It would be helpful to cite the source when
> parroting someone else's findings; otherwise, an evaluatuion is impossible.
>
> Helene
>
>
> > I find your question perplexing.  In any place, there is visual information
> > between trees and branches, like details of rocks behind the trees,
> > squirrels,
> > birds, whatever.
> >
> > What exactly do you *think* could be between tree branches?  Certainly
> > there has
> > to be *something*!
> >
> > There was a similar thread on one of the scanner lists last summer, and it
> > also
> > included the resolving power of films well as something to do with lenses.
> > During that discussion, someone posted a bunch of details from scans and
> > digital
> > captures.  It *clearly* illustrated what I am talking about (a picture
> > being
> > worth 1000 words and all), and am frustrated that I cannot explain it
> > further.
> >
> >
> > Harvey Ferdschneider
> > partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> >
> >
> > grdglass@... wrote:
> >
> > >  Harvey,
> > >
> > > What exactly is the information between tree branches?
> > >
> > > Helene
> > >
> > > << Actually the digital cameras do very well with the tree branches
> > (because
> > > of the
> > > straight line algorithms), but it's the information *BETWEEN* the
> > branches.
> > > It's that information that the digital cameras cannot resolve or properly
> > > interpret, but can be found in film. >>
> >
>
>




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Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.

2002-01-31 by SKID Photography

Michael ,
I'm sorry if I have offended/upset you, but I felt that I was responding in
kind.....But yes, I do have a tendency to be short.  It certainly was not my
intention...It was my intention to offend Helene, as she offended me,

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC

>  Harvey,
>
> Please do not take this the wrong way, but sometimes your responses are a bit
> shall we say short. I have ignored some that I would have liked to jump onto.
> I don't think that your comments help maintain a high qulaity discussion. We
> all need to be careful of how we express ourselves in type. ;-)
>
> Mike
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: SKID Photography
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:37 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.
>
>
>   Helene,
>   I cannot help it if you can't comprehend english.  The concept is very
>   straightforward, and by your answer you seem to understand it.
>





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Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.

2002-01-31 by Michael Kravit

Harvey,

Please do not take this the wrong way, but sometimes your responses are a bit shall we say short. I have ignored some that I would have liked to jump onto. I don't think that your comments help maintain a high qulaity discussion. We all need to be careful of how we express ourselves in type. ;-)

Mike
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SKID Photography 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.


  Helene,
  I cannot help it if you can't comprehend english.  The concept is very
  straightforward, and by your answer you seem to understand it.



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Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.

2002-01-31 by Michael Kravit

Harvey,

No, you did not offend me as I can scrap with the best of em. BUT, I also have to be careful of how I phrase things. I find that as I get older I have a tendency to not be as patient as I should. I think it is called being a "Grumpy Old Man", heck I am only 47 and talking like that. Now let's get back to B/W digitalis. ;-)

Mike
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SKID Photography 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: From the horses mouth.


  Michael ,
  I'm sorry if I have offended/upset you, but I felt that I was responding in
  kind.....But yes, I do have a tendency to be short.  It certainly was not my
  intention...It was my intention to offend Helene, as she offended me,

  Harvey Ferdschneider
  partner, SKID Photography, NYC
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