PremierArt Eco Shield?
2007-10-10 by chriskjezp
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2007-10-10 by chriskjezp
Does this product work as well as the normal PremierArt Print Shield? My wife is pretty sensitive to chemicals and I think she would kill me if I sprayed the normal Print Shield in the house.
2007-10-11 by Paul Roark
>Does this product work as well as the normal PremierArt Print Shield? The water-based coating are very different, in my experience, than the solvent based ones. On matte paper, I usually want no visible change in appearance from a solvent-based spray. That's not going to happen with the water-based coatings. They go on thick and will turn a matte paper into more of a glossy one. I think the potential is huge, but getting an even coat is tricky, and it's a lot more work. I think shops that have the proper spraying equipment and spray booths may be the only way to go with them. I have not used the water based coatings on glossy papers very much. I've tried some sprays that were less than the HVLP spray equipment, and the results have not been very good. With practice I might be able to get there, but I have not done so yet. So, I stick with the solvent based Lascaux for matte unless UV protection is needed, then it's Print Shield. But, I always spray in an open garage, with goggles and with a respirator if the circumstances are such that I might have to breathe while spraying. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2007-10-12 by James Haney
I gave up on sprays and solvents. It is true that most of the water based products darken the print tones severely. I posted a pretty exhaustive description of my technique recently. Search the archives. If you can't find it let me know and I will dig it up for you. I roll on Clearstar water based varnish. I couldn't be happier. James Haney On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:55 PM, chriskjezp wrote: > Does this product work as well as the normal PremierArt Print Shield? > My wife is pretty sensitive to chemicals and I think she would kill > me if I sprayed the normal Print Shield in the house. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-10-12 by the_des_bois
James, I've read your post #87508 with great interest. I will have to try this. Do you feel that using this technique, you could display the prints without glass or acrylic for long periods of time? Would it allow for unframed full time display? Denis Bouchard --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Haney <lists@...> wrote:
> > I gave up on sprays and solvents. > > It is true that most of the water based products darken the print > tones severely. > > I posted a pretty exhaustive description of my technique recently. > Search the archives. If you can't find it let me know and I will dig > it up for you. > > I roll on Clearstar water based varnish. I couldn't be happier. > > > James Haney > > > > > On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:55 PM, chriskjezp wrote: > > > Does this product work as well as the normal PremierArt Print Shield? > > My wife is pretty sensitive to chemicals and I think she would kill > > me if I sprayed the normal Print Shield in the house. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2007-10-12 by James Haney
> Do you feel that using this technique, you could display the prints > without glass or acrylic for long periods of time? Would it allow for > unframed full time display? Absolutely, In fact, the mix I recommend in the post (50% Gloss, 50% Satin) yields a finish that is smooth, but not reflective, so you don't have problems with reflections on glass obscuring the image. And it is not so matte that it reduces d-max. I built my varnish compensation curve by printing a 21 step wedge, varnishing it, then reading the densities to determine the amount of mid-tone darkening that I needed to compensate for. With a higher satin percentage the d-max actually declined, with more gloss the d- max increased, but I didn't like the finish as much. With the 50-50 mix the d-max matches the unvarnished print. As to permanence: there was an artist on-line named Livick, who did an extensive set of UV fading tests with different inksets, sprays and varnishes. He found this Clearstar varnish to be the best aid to long term fade resistance for inkjet prints. He actually recommends putting an initial coat of Lascaux Fixativ on the print surface prior to applying the varnish, but I wanted to completely eliminate the toxic solvent factor. There are times when rolling the first coat on that the roller (if it is overly dry) has picked up flakes of the print surface and created white specks. And if I the roller is too wet and I have to roll "aggressively" to even out the initial coat, I have seen a tint of ink rolled on to the surrounding white border of the print. So the roller is pulling ink from the surface of the print. I haven't seen this create problems with the image. Spraying an initial coat of fixative like Lascaux or Print Shield (they smell like the same thing - nasty!) seals the print and eliminates this issue, but I don't think it is worth the pain. I have just learned exactly how wet the roller needs to be to apply one light initial coat without "aggressive" rolling. Another plus: I have washed off dirty prints with water and a sponge, no problem. As well, if there are slight surface imperfections or the surface gets scuffed by handling, you can actually use fine sandpaper to sand the surface of the varnish then apply a new coat on top. It works like a charm. I haven't found anything to not like about this technique, and I have tried a lot of different options. I think the biggest reason to put prints behind glass is to keep the mat from getting dirty. James [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]