Digital BW, The Print

I am about to buy a 2400, but wonder if I should wait for the new
R1900.  Does anyone know if it will have the ABW capabilities of the
2400?  

On another subject, I notice a huge variance in the amount of ink left
in the carts (N7) when the Epson R800 monitor tells me they need
replacement.  The first cart I replaced last night had no more than
10% of the ink in it (via visual inspection).  The second, which I had
to replace to get a cleaning cycle to work, had at least 30-40% of the
ink remaining.  I tried reinserting the cart a number of time to no
avail. Would a chip resetter work?

Regards,

Steve

"Would a chip resetter work?"

Yes.

Scott

The 1900 appears to be very close to the 1800 - no neutral ink core like the
k3 printers.  So in its OEM ink setup, the 1900 will probably be a poor B&W
printer.  On the other hand, it will probably make an excellent 100% carbon
printer on matte paper like the 1800 I use for that purpose.  See
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.htm 

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Kobrin
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:06 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson R1900

 

I am about to buy a 2400, but wonder if I should wait for the new
R1900. Does anyone know if it will have the ABW capabilities of the
2400? 

On another subject, I notice a huge variance in the amount of ink left
in the carts (N7) when the Epson R800 monitor tells me they need
replacement. The first cart I replaced last night had no more than
10% of the ink in it (via visual inspection). The second, which I had
to replace to get a cleaning cycle to work, had at least 30-40% of the
ink remaining. I tried reinserting the cart a number of time to no
avail. Would a chip resetter work?

Regards,

Steve

 



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I'm crossing my fingers it does not have the banding issues the r1800 has. What are the 
chances? What's supposed to be different about this model....anyone know?

Sarah



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
wrote:

>
> The 1900 appears to be very close to the 1800 - no neutral ink core like the
> k3 printers.  So in its OEM ink setup, the 1900 will probably be a poor B&W
> printer.  On the other hand, it will probably make an excellent 100% carbon
> printer on matte paper like the 1800 I use for that purpose.  See
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.htm 
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Kobrin
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:06 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson R1900
> 
>  
> 
> I am about to buy a 2400, but wonder if I should wait for the new
> R1900. Does anyone know if it will have the ABW capabilities of the
> 2400? 
> 
> On another subject, I notice a huge variance in the amount of ink left
> in the carts (N7) when the Epson R800 monitor tells me they need
> replacement. The first cart I replaced last night had no more than
> 10% of the ink in it (via visual inspection). The second, which I had
> to replace to get a cleaning cycle to work, had at least 30-40% of the
> ink remaining. I tried reinserting the cart a number of time to no
> avail. Would a chip resetter work?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I see Epson's back to using their Gloss Optimizer in the new R1900.

And, the still employ the 'ol trick of have to yank out one type of K 
to using another type K.

I guess old dogs can't learn new tricks.

Oh well, there's always the new HP B8850. :>)

Scott -- I have an HP Z3100ps GP with the Advanced Profiling Solution and it uses a gloss optimizer. So it would seem to me that the state of the art, currently, is to use a gloss optimizer.   Doesn't the new HP printer that you mention?  
   
  Also, are you saying the Epson R1900 requires you to exchange MK for PK when printing on glossy paper?

scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
          I see Epson's back to using their Gloss Optimizer in the new R1900.

And, the still employ the 'ol trick of have to yank out one type of K 
to using another type K.

I guess old dogs can't learn new tricks.

Oh well, there's always the new HP B8850. :>)



                         




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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
<scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
>
> I see Epson's back to using their Gloss Optimizer in the new R1900.
> 
> And, the still employ the 'ol trick of have to yank out one type of K 
> to using another type K.
> 
> I guess old dogs can't learn new tricks.
> 
> Oh well, there's always the new HP B8850. :>)

CORRECTION: The R1900 DOES hold mk AND pk at the same time. It DOESN'T 
contain any type of light black.

Also, what  find disturbing about this printer is, Wilhelm doesn't list 
any test results for B&W printing. :>(

Scott

In a message dated 1/15/08 5:41:14 PM, scott_now_coming@... writes:


> Also, what  find disturbing about this printer is, Wilhelm doesn't list
> any test results for B&W printing. :>(
> 

Its not really a printer for the B&W market, its a glossy color printer, to 
replace the older glossy color printer, the R1800. Its an improvement on the 
1800, for the things the 1800 was good at; not a universal solution to the 
worlds printing needs.

There is a story about a church looking for a new minister, spending two 
years interviewing candidates based on criteria that only Christ himself could 
possibly meet. Once that phase had passed they got down to the business of 
finding an actual human being to fill the post (sound anything like a Presidential 
Election?) We tend to treat every new Epson printer release in the same way: we 
aren't looking for incremental improvement on the previous model in the same 
line, we are looking for the perfect printer for all uses; and when we don't 
get it, we're unhappy.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@datacolor.com
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3


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In a message dated 1/15/08 6:13:54 PM, harold@... writes:


> Scott -- I have an HP Z3100ps GP with the Advanced Profiling Solution and 
> it uses a gloss optimizer. So it would seem to me that the state of the art, 
> currently, is to use a gloss optimizer. 
> 
If your ink isn't glossy enough to get by without Gloss Optimizer, than an 
Optimizer is needed for gloss prints, if your ink is glossy enough, then its 
better still not to have one. There are tradeoffs any way you do it...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3


**************
Start the year off right.  Easy ways 
to stay in shape.
     
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CDTobie@... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/15/08 5:41:14 PM, scott_now_coming@... writes:
> 
> 
>> Also, what  find disturbing about this printer is, Wilhelm doesn't list
>> any test results for B&W printing. :>(
>>
> 
> Its not really a printer for the B&W market, its a glossy color printer, to 
> replace the older glossy color printer, the R1800. Its an improvement on the 
> 1800, for the things the 1800 was good at; not a universal solution to the 
> worlds printing needs.
> 
> There is a story about a church looking for a new minister, spending two 
> years interviewing candidates based on criteria that only Christ himself could 
> possibly meet. Once that phase had passed they got down to the business of 
> finding an actual human being to fill the post (sound anything like a Presidential 
> Election?) We tend to treat every new Epson printer release in the same way: we 
> aren't looking for incremental improvement on the previous model in the same 
> line, we are looking for the perfect printer for all uses; and when we don't 
> get it, we're unhappy.
> 
> C. David Tobie

There's another end to that tale where the only candidate 
that passed the test didn't belong to the same religion. To 
keep the analogy going: Epson might call that printer 
evolution, I think it is more marketing creationism.


-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst


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