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...RIP inkjet printing...

...RIP inkjet printing...

2007-12-24 by djon43

1) At 64, a dinosaur with 56 years of photo processing/printing
experience, I'm VERY happy with B&W and color inkjet (2200, OEM, QTR,
CS2, Nikon & Epson scanners, Moab Satine etc)... but I don't recommend
printing anymore to anybody. 

2) The new Sony Alpha 700 and various digital videocameras are
designed specifically to plug directly into HD TV. This means people
who buy TV sets dating from 2008 forward will virtually all have
purchased large, very high quality displays that range from
larger-than computer monitor to mural sized.

3) #2 above means many will love their new medium more than they love
prints....finally, a justification for TV. Who needs prints when they
can display a spectacular slide show in their living rooms, using a
high quality display (with sound system) they may already have? 

4) Not incidentally, Sony's Alpha 700 also has a photo-historically
remarkable internal HDR-like capability for extending tonal range by
several stops...not well advertised yet, it will force Nikon, Canon et
al to catch up...sayonara D300, 5D etc. 

6) Ever wish you could step out of the consumerist aspect of
photography? I think this particular camera, coupled with the HD TV
you may soon buy, will make that possible for the first time in a decade.

Re: ...RIP inkjet printing...

2007-12-24 by Greg

This post makes a certain amount of sense. Having an image displayed
as a light source has always been something that I liked. Especially
having a big transparency. With the size of current LCD direct view
displays, it makes thinking of large lightboxes almost silly. I'll
have to consider this issue a little more heavily after I get a few
things worked.

Re: ...RIP inkjet printing...

2007-12-24 by djon43

Here's part of Sony's story...talks about what's not possible in
camera with Nikon, Canon et al..doesn't talk about TV..

http://photoclubalpha.com/2007/11/01/advanced-dro-the-a700s-magic-bullet/

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43"
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> 1) At 64, a dinosaur with 56 years of photo processing/printing
> experience, I'm VERY happy with B&W and color inkjet (2200, OEM, QTR,
> CS2, Nikon & Epson scanners, Moab Satine etc)... but I don't recommend
> printing anymore to anybody. 
> 
> 2) The new Sony Alpha 700 and various digital videocameras are
> designed specifically to plug directly into HD TV. This means people
> who buy TV sets dating from 2008 forward will virtually all have
> purchased large, very high quality displays that range from
> larger-than computer monitor to mural sized.
> 
> 3) #2 above means many will love their new medium more than they love
> prints....finally, a justification for TV. Who needs prints when they
> can display a spectacular slide show in their living rooms, using a
> high quality display (with sound system) they may already have? 
> 
> 4) Not incidentally, Sony's Alpha 700 also has a photo-historically
> remarkable internal HDR-like capability for extending tonal range by
> several stops...not well advertised yet, it will force Nikon, Canon et
> al to catch up...sayonara D300, 5D etc. 
> 
> 6) Ever wish you could step out of the consumerist aspect of
> photography? I think this particular camera, coupled with the HD TV
> you may soon buy, will make that possible for the first time in a
decade.
>

Re: ...RIP inkjet printing...

2007-12-26 by pjb74nz

I would like to add my view on this. 

First of all I love high quality printed photos. But only good arty 
ones. I also like when visiting showrooms to see a good HD photo 
being displayed on a HDTV.

BUT

I think there is room for both depending on the occasion. I would not 
like a HDTV going 24 hours a day to show the photo I love in my home. 
In my office during work hours maybe for demo purposes.

I'm still a print freek who loves viewing a high quality photo in B&W 
which hangs in it's place of honor in my home.
I love paintings as well and I cannot see them on a HDTV.

Also a bit difficult to hang several nice photos on one wall, let 
alone the expensive.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Here's part of Sony's story...talks about what's not possible in
> camera with Nikon, Canon et al..doesn't talk about TV..
> 
> http://photoclubalpha.com/2007/11/01/advanced-dro-the-a700s-magic-
bullet/
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43"
> <djon43@> wrote:
> >
> > 1) At 64, a dinosaur with 56 years of photo processing/printing
> > experience, I'm VERY happy with B&W and color inkjet (2200, OEM, 
QTR,
> > CS2, Nikon & Epson scanners, Moab Satine etc)... but I don't 
recommend
> > printing anymore to anybody. 
> > 
> > 2) The new Sony Alpha 700 and various digital videocameras are
> > designed specifically to plug directly into HD TV. This means 
people
> > who buy TV sets dating from 2008 forward will virtually all have
> > purchased large, very high quality displays that range from
> > larger-than computer monitor to mural sized.
> > 
> > 3) #2 above means many will love their new medium more than they 
love
> > prints....finally, a justification for TV. Who needs prints when 
they
> > can display a spectacular slide show in their living rooms, using 
a
> > high quality display (with sound system) they may already have? 
> > 
> > 4) Not incidentally, Sony's Alpha 700 also has a photo-
historically
> > remarkable internal HDR-like capability for extending tonal range 
by
> > several stops...not well advertised yet, it will force Nikon, 
Canon et
> > al to catch up...sayonara D300, 5D etc. 
> > 
> > 6) Ever wish you could step out of the consumerist aspect of
> > photography? I think this particular camera, coupled with the HD 
TV
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> > you may soon buy, will make that possible for the first time in a
> decade.
> >
>

Re: ...RIP inkjet printing...

2007-12-26 by john kelly

Yes...prints AND TV are ideal, and everybody will want
them. Some of us will want handsome B&W prints more
than others of us. I will. 

My point was that I think TV will take much of the
money and interest away from printing. Maybe that's
OK, especially if one operates a lab :-) A SUPERIOR
lab, of course...like Mark's :-)

I'm not convinced fine inkjet prints have advanced
image-making "art" as much as have digital film making
or websites like Flickr and Youtube.

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