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Piezo/Paul's curves and such

Piezo/Paul's curves and such

2002-02-04 by Jerry Olson

I was taken off the black and white piezo list for mentioning MIS VM
inks once too often. I started quad printing with the piezo system. Paid
hundreds of dollars for it. I was one of the first to use it. There were
terrible bugs in the first version of the software that resulted in my
wasting hundreds of dollars in ink and paper before the problems (the
dreaded screen pattern all over the prints, and the horizontal
stripes... no image, just stripes.) and the banding, the prints weren't
square, etc. It was awful. 

When you're first starting out there will be all kinds of problems, I
know that, but I was wasting way too much ink and paper to be a happy
camper. And those brown tones...
Never liked them. So when Paul Roark and MIS came out with curves and
coldtone inks I jumped to that system and never looked back. I would
never pay $80 for a 4 ounce bottle of ink again. You can get every bit
as high quality with Paul's curves and VM inks as you can with the Piezo system.

Jerry

Re: Piezo/Paul's curves and such

2002-02-04 by photo734

Jerry, 
Thanks for the heads up. I had been considering Piezo for some time. 
I'm doing duotones on my 1270 with standard Epson inks. MIS VS sounds 
like the good way to go.  I have a friend who recdently spent over 
$1000 for the Piezo setup, not counting the printer, and has had 
nothing but trouble from the get go!  Plus, demanding $80 for a 4 oz. 
bottle of ink is gouging and robbing a captive group. 

BTW, Anyone using Epson Color Life Paper for B&W? I like the looks of 
the paper, and it workks great for color, but I can't seem to get a 
decent B&W print without a strong mostly magenta color cast, Even 
with Epson new downloadable profile for that paper.

Bruce McElhaney (ex-lurker)

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> I was taken off the black and white piezo list for mentioning MIS VM
> inks once too often. I started quad printing with the piezo system. 
Paid
> hundreds of dollars for it. I was one of the first to use it. There 
were
> terrible bugs in the first version of the software that resulted in 
my
> wasting hundreds of dollars in ink and paper before the problems 
(the
> dreaded screen pattern all over the prints, and the horizontal
> stripes... no image, just stripes.) and the banding, the prints 
weren't
> square, etc. It was awful. 
> 
> When you're first starting out there will be all kinds of problems, 
I
> know that, but I was wasting way too much ink and paper to be a 
happy
> camper. And those brown tones...
> Never liked them. So when Paul Roark and MIS came out with curves 
and
> coldtone inks I jumped to that system and never looked back. I would
> never pay $80 for a 4 ounce bottle of ink again. You can get every 
bit
> as high quality with Paul's curves and VM inks as you can with the 
Piezo system.
> 
> Jerry

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