Digital BW, The Print

I print primarlily b/w with Epson OEM inks via Epson's ABW driver on 
Epson Premium Glossy Paper via Qimage with a R2400.

My question is if I go to a MIS bulk system or refill Epson carts with 
MIS inks do I have to create new profiles or are MIS inks close enough 
to Epson K3 to use the Epson profiles?

Thanks 

Joe

> I print primarlily b/w with Epson OEM inks via Epson's ABW driver on
> Epson Premium Glossy Paper via Qimage with a R2400.
>
> My question is if I go to a MIS bulk system or refill Epson carts with
> MIS inks do I have to create new profiles or are MIS inks close enough
> to Epson K3 to use the Epson profiles?
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe 

Joe, I'd make a new profile.

-Peter

Interesting.  When speaking with MIS today, they sort of indicated 
that the inks would be close enough to the original Epson inks that I 
could use the inks with the Epson profiles and ABW driver with good 
results.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter De Smidt 
<pdesmidt@...> wrote:
>
> > I print primarlily b/w with Epson OEM inks via Epson's ABW driver 
on
> > Epson Premium Glossy Paper via Qimage with a R2400.
> >
> > My question is if I go to a MIS bulk system or refill Epson carts 
with
> > MIS inks do I have to create new profiles or are MIS inks close 
enough

> > to Epson K3 to use the Epson profiles?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Joe 
> 
> Joe, I'd make a new profile.
> 
> -Peter
>

> Interesting. When speaking with MIS today, they sort of indicated
> that the inks would be close enough to the original Epson inks that I
> could use the inks with the Epson profiles and ABW driver with good
> results.
Well, I print both color and BW with a color profile (Print Fix Pro 
expert target with extended grays.)  I don't use ABW.  The only way to 
tell if the differences between inks are meaningful for you with ABW 
would be to try it.

Despite their claims I haven't found that to be the case with my R1800.

If you have PFP I'd recommend creating new profiles.

Roger


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- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter De Smidt
<pdesmidt@...> wrote:

>
> > Interesting. When speaking with MIS today, they sort of indicated
> > that the inks would be close enough to the original Epson inks that I
> > could use the inks with the Epson profiles and ABW driver with good
> > results.
> Well, I print both color and BW with a color profile (Print Fix Pro 
> expert target with extended grays.)  I don't use ABW.  The only way to 
> tell if the differences between inks are meaningful for you with ABW 
> would be to try it.
>

I have been using for a short period of time MIS UC R1800 colors inks.
They are made by Ink Specialists. Very good inks and on some images
using the Epson premium profiles it was very close. But for some other
images the color was not as it was supposed to be. I have a calibrated
monitor.

If I would have continued using color a lot, I would have had my
printer/ink/papers combinations profiled.

Just my personal experience.

Denis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "joe.gagliardo"
<joeg111@...> wrote:

>
> Interesting.  When speaking with MIS today, they sort of indicated 
> that the inks would be close enough to the original Epson inks that I 
> could use the inks with the Epson profiles and ABW driver with good 
> results.
> 
> 
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "joe.gagliardo" <joeg111@...> 
wrote:
>I can't speak about MIS, but I just switched to Jon Cone's color ink CIS (glossy and matte 
included) for the R2400 and they work great with Epson profiles. The website says the 
inks have the same color gamut as Epson inks and I believe it because prints with his inks 
and Epson paper/profiles look just like prints with Epson inks. The prints using ABW also 
look the same.

But your not limited to using Epson paper/profiles. He ship this inkset with a cd of about 
45 color profiles for Epson, Hahnemule, Innova, Inkpress, Moab (I think), and his new 
JonCone Studio Papers (4 types. I'm now using Type 3, an acid/ligin-free white ultra 
smooth heavy weight 275gsm EEM look-a-like). So, you can use this inkset for both color 
and black and white with success.

Regards, 
Steve Harris

> I print primarlily b/w with Epson OEM inks via Epson's ABW driver on 
> Epson Premium Glossy Paper via Qimage with a R2400.
> 
> My question is if I go to a MIS bulk system or refill Epson carts with 
> MIS inks do I have to create new profiles or are MIS inks close enough 
> to Epson K3 to use the Epson profiles?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Joe
>