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UT7 and glossy paper

UT7 and glossy paper

2008-06-12 by arcibombolina

Hi,
I'm going to buy ut7 inkset for my 7600, and I have a few questions:
Is the quality on glossy paper similar to the one is reached by ut3D inkset (no bronzing, good 
dmax, etc -> is glossy optimizer used ?)
If I'm not wrong I'd have to switch between mk and pk to print on matte/glossy paper, is it 
good to use the black channel for sepia/cool toner so I can use both pk and mk together and 
switch only when I need a different toning?
Lastly, the 6 (7 with pk) black used are 100%carbon or they are neutralized/toned ? I need to 
know it, because of ink separation on large format printer, and cause I'd like to work with qtr 
and use 6 black and one toner to create profile, without having to consider partially toned 
inks, that are harder for me to profile.

thx a lot

Re: UT7 and glossy paper

2008-06-12 by pr_roark

> I'm going to buy ut7 inkset for my 7600, and I have a few questions:

> Is the quality on glossy paper similar to the one is reached 
> by ut3D inkset (no bronzing, good dmax, etc -

The UT7 and UT-3D are made from the some basic inks.  They should be 
very similar with respect to gloss differential.  I'm not sure about 
dmax.  The 3D used a more dense single PKN, but the UT7 uses 2 
channels to make its 100% black.  

> is glossy optimizer used ?

No, not on either one.  However with the UT7 the Y-position is a 
sepia ink.  If you remove that the non-sepia tones will still be 
good, and you can put Glop in the Y position.  This does not work for 
the 3D inkset.


> If I'm not wrong I'd have to switch between mk and pk to 
> print on matte/glossy paper, 

No, you should be able to get a decent dmax with the M and C channels 
firing.  See the curves I made for the inkset.

If you're using QTR, you can put in a PK, however.


> is it good to use the black channel for sepia/cool toner so 
> I can use both pk and mk together and 
> switch only when I need a different toning?

The LK is the ink spot I'd consider redundant if QTR is used.  So, 
you might want to use that for the PK.  However you arrange the inks 
with a rip, the LK is not very useful, as it was mixed for the Epson 
driver and a compromise that was needed mostly to avoid the cross-
overs from interferring too much.

> Lastly, the 6 (7 with pk) black used are 100% carbon 
> or they are neutralized/toned ?

The C and LC are carbon.  The M and LM are neutralized cool toners.  
The Y is a sepia that is largely color.  The LK is slightly 
neutralized.

>...because of ink separation on large format printer, 
> and cause I'd like to work with qtr 
> and use 6 black and one toner to create profile, 
> without having to consider partially toned 
> inks, that are harder for me to profile.

I don't recommend UT7 for what you're trying to do.

See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/4K+.pdf

When I was doing toning of carbon inks in my hextone printers I 
switched to non-blended inks.

The avaiable toners with the correct toning color to reach neutral or 
sepia are themselves blends that are subject to the same problem.  UT 
1 has a blended toner that had the right tone.  I think if you're 
interested in non-blended inks, you're better off with the setup 
described in the link above.

Good luck with the setup.

Paul  
www.PaulRoark.com

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