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gum arabic printing question

2008-09-14 by geoman4919

Hi, I am interested in gum arabic printing. This method of printing a
negative uses gum arabic and a watercolor pigment, with a sensitizer-
potassium dichromate. The dichromate renders the gum arabic insoluble
in water on exposure to light. The print is developed in warm water.
The unexposed portions of the print dissolve. I want to find another
chemical rather than the dichromate to use. This chemical is too toxic
for home use and a substitute is needed. Does anyone know of another
chemical which will release oxygen on exposure to light like the
dichromate? Alternatively, a chemical that would produce acidic
conditions on exposure to light would also render the gum arabic
insoluble.

Best Regards

Jim

Re: [Digital BW] gum arabic printing question

2008-09-14 by John

Jim,
    I think we may have what you are looking for. We have developed a film with a "green" coat on it that you can print on with our Black inkjet ink and then subject it to a UV Light source after which you can wash off the areas, with water, that were black printed leaving a UV resistant "green" negative of good quality. Not knowing where you are based I can't give you the nearest place to get some samples, but if you give me a call as below, I will give you some more details and I can arrange  some samples to test.

Regards

John
 
 John Edmunds
+31 593 543 206 Home/Office
+31 593 543 110 Fax
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Subject: [Digital BW] gum arabic printing question


Hi, I am interested in gum arabic printing. This method of printing a
negative uses gum arabic and a watercolor pigment, with a sensitizer-
potassium dichromate. The dichromate renders the gum arabic insoluble
in water on exposure to light. The print is developed in warm water.
The unexposed portions of the print dissolve. I want to find another
chemical rather than the dichromate to use. This chemical is too toxic
for home use and a substitute is needed. Does anyone know of another
chemical which will release oxygen on exposure to light like the
dichromate? Alternatively, a chemical that would produce acidic
conditions on exposure to light would also render the gum arabic
insoluble.

Best Regards

Jim

 

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Re: [Digital BW] gum arabic printing question

2008-09-15 by ender100

Jim,

I am not aware of another alternative process using gum that does not use either potassium dichromate or ammonium dichromate.  Most people prefer ammonium dichromate because it produces a longer scale.

As far as toxicity, the dichromates are toxic, no doubt about it, but can be easily used at home with reasonable care.  The only mixing you do is create a saturated solution with distilled water, so you can transfer the powder outside on a still day and be fine.  Other than that, use rubber gloves when developing the prints.  There are hundreds of people doing gum bichromate prints at home without a problem.  It is a beautiful process.

Here are some good resources:

http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/3CG/3cg.html
an article by a friend of mine, Sam Wang, a master of this process

Christina Z. Anderson
website of another friend who has a great book Alternative Processes Condensed—this has a great section on Gum Bichromate.  Christina will be publishing the definitive book on Gum Bichromate later this year. 

Hope this is helpful

Mark Nelson
Precision Digital Negatives
PDN Print Forum @ Yahoo! Groups
Mark Nelson Photography


On Sep 13, 2008, at 8:27:07 PM, geoman4919 <geoman4919@...> wrote:
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From:   geoman4919 <geoman4919@...>
Subject:    [Digital BW] gum arabic printing question
Date:   September 13, 2008 8:27:07 PM CDT
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Hi, I am interested in gum arabic printing. This method of printing a
negative uses gum arabic and a watercolor pigment, with a sensitizer-
potassium dichromate. The dichromate renders the gum arabic insoluble
in water on exposure to light. The print is developed in warm water.
The unexposed portions of the print dissolve. I want to find another
chemical rather than the dichromate to use. This chemical is too toxic
for home use and a substitute is needed. Does anyone know of another
chemical which will release oxygen on exposure to light like the
dichromate? Alternatively, a chemical that would produce acidic
conditions on exposure to light would also render the gum arabic
insoluble.

Best Regards

Jim





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Best Wishes,

Mark Nelson
Precision Digital Negatives
PDN Print Forum @ Yahoo! Groups
Mark Nelson Photography


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