Digital BW, The Print

My first post to this group although I have been learning a lot the 
last few months by reading the posts here. I'm just diving into b/w 
digital printing after many years of printing my own large format b/w 
stuff in my home darkroom. For my first digital setup I decided to go 
for an Epson 1400 loaded with MIS Eboni 6 inks. 

I've now got the printer and have loaded the inks. All seems to be 
working OK - Except - no ink is being put onto the paper while the 
printer is printing! There were no instructions of any kind included 
with the Eboni 6 inkset, so I am assuming those little colored plastic 
tabs on the back of the individual cartridges need to be removed or 
moved to another position before the ink can squirt out of the 
cartridges? The only previous experience I have with printer cartidges 
are the standard Epson product, where one just pushes them into the 
slot and begins printing.

Any help for this raw beginner will be much appreciated!

Rob McKay

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geozucco" 
<robtmckay@...> wrote:
>...my first digital setup ... an Epson 1400 loaded with 
> MIS Eboni 6 inks. 
> 
> ... no ink is being put onto the paper while the 
> printer is printing!

Be sure you've removed the tabs on top of the cartridges that block 
the air intakes.

> There were no instructions of any kind included 
> with the Eboni 6 inkset, so I am assuming those 
> little colored plastic 
> tabs on the back of the individual cartridges need to be removed or 
> moved to another position before the ink can squirt out of the 
> cartridges?

Yes, that's probably the problem.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks Paul,
 
I removed the little rubber tabs and now the problem is solved. 
 
Now back to reading some of your PDFs on digital printing..........
 
Rob McKay
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In a message dated 11/29/2008 8:47:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
pr_roark@... writes:

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geozucco" 

<robtmckay@...> wrote:
>...my first digital setup ... an  Epson 1400 loaded with 
> MIS Eboni 6 inks. 
> 
> ... no ink  is being put onto the paper while the 
> printer is printing!

Be  sure you've removed the tabs on top of the cartridges that block 
the air  intakes.

> There were no instructions of any kind included 
>  with the Eboni 6 inkset, so I am assuming those 
> little colored plastic  
> tabs on the back of the individual cartridges need to be removed or  
> moved to another position before the ink can squirt out of the 
>  cartridges?

Yes, that's probably the problem.

Paul
_www.PaulRoark.com_ (http://www.PaulRoark.com)  
 
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Rob, don't feel bad....I did the same thing with the MIS carts for my r1800. Felt a little 
chagrined but mostly just relieved that the solution was so simple.

welcome, and best of luck with your set-up!
Sarah


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geozucco" <robtmckay@...> 
wrote:

>
> My first post to this group although I have been learning a lot the 
> last few months by reading the posts here. I'm just diving into b/w 
> digital printing after many years of printing my own large format b/w 
> stuff in my home darkroom. For my first digital setup I decided to go 
> for an Epson 1400 loaded with MIS Eboni 6 inks. 
> 
> I've now got the printer and have loaded the inks. All seems to be 
> working OK - Except - no ink is being put onto the paper while the 
> printer is printing! There were no instructions of any kind included 
> with the Eboni 6 inkset, so I am assuming those little colored plastic 
> tabs on the back of the individual cartridges need to be removed or 
> moved to another position before the ink can squirt out of the 
> cartridges? The only previous experience I have with printer cartidges 
> are the standard Epson product, where one just pushes them into the 
> slot and begins printing.
> 
> Any help for this raw beginner will be much appreciated!
> 
> Rob McKay
>

Thanks Sarah and Paul for your responses.
 
OK, now I've got my Epson 1400 printer working with the Eboni 6 inkset  and 
I'm already getting gorgeous prints. Here are a few more beginner  questions:
 
1) I have decided to continue working with Eboni 6. I bought one pre-filled  
cartridge set from MIS and now would like to order either the 4oz or 1 pint  
bottles of each ink. About how many cartridge refills would I get from the 4oz  
size? 
 
2) Can the cartridges I now have in the printer be refilled, or do I need  to 
order new "refillable" carts from MIS?
 
3) Obviously I'll need a syrynge and needle to refill cartridges -  
specifically which of each on the MIS site do I need to order?
 
4) Do I need a Chip Resetter? If so, any particular one or are  they all the 
same?
 
5) Are there any good illustrated online tutorials on Cartridge refilling -  
suited as much as possible to my particular situation - that anyone can direct 
 me to?
 
Again, thanks for any help.
 
Rob
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In a message dated 11/30/2008 7:40:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
sagaface@... writes:

 
 
 
Rob, don't feel bad....I did the same thing with the MIS carts for my  r1800. 
Felt a little 
chagrined but mostly just relieved that the solution  was so simple.

welcome, and best of luck with your  set-up!
Sarah

--- In _DigitalBlackandWhitDigitalBlaDigitalBlackDig_ 
(mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com) ,  "geozucco" <robtmckay@.ro> 
wrote:
>
> My first post  to this group although I have been learning a lot the 
> last few months  by reading the posts here. I'm just diving into b/w 
> digital printing  after many years of printing my own large format b/w 
> stuff in my home  darkroom. For my first digital setup I decided to go 
> for an Epson  1400 loaded with MIS Eboni 6 inks. 
> 
> I've now got the printer  and have loaded the inks. All seems to be 
> working OK - Except - no  ink is being put onto the paper while the 
> printer is printing! There  were no instructions of any kind included 
> with the Eboni 6 inkset, so  I am assuming those little colored plastic 
> tabs on the back of the  individual cartridges need to be removed or 
> moved to another position  before the ink can squirt out of the 
> cartridges? The only previous  experience I have with printer cartidges 
> are the standard Epson  product, where one just pushes them into the 
> slot and begins  printing.
> 
> Any help for this raw beginner will be much  appreciated!
> 
> Rob  McKay





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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, robtmckay@... wrote:
>
> Thanks Sarah and Paul for your responses.
>  
> OK, now I've got my Epson 1400 printer working with the Eboni 6
inkset  and 
> I'm already getting gorgeous prints. Here are a few more beginner 
questions:
>  
> 1) I have decided to continue working with Eboni 6. I bought one
pre-filled  
> cartridge set from MIS and now would like to order either the 4oz or
1 pint  
> bottles of each ink. About how many cartridge refills would I get
from the 4oz  
> size? 
>  
> 2) Can the cartridges I now have in the printer be refilled, or do I
need  to 
> order new "refillable" carts from MIS?
The EB6 is prefilled into refillable carts. 
But beware - at least a couple of us have ordered prefilled EB6
carts only to find that they were incorrectly filled - instead of 
6 different densities of eboni, they had two different tones (warmtone
and cooltone). So when you buy the bulk EB6 the inks will be
different. 4 oz. is quite a lot and I suggest you start there.


>  
> 3) Obviously I'll need a syrynge and needle to refill cartridges -  
> specifically which of each on the MIS site do I need to order?

Here are the MIS part numbers:
 MIS-NEEDLE
 MIS-SYRINGE
 MIS-BADP   (this is the bottom fill adapter, for drawing bubbles out
of the exit port if needed)


>  
> 4) Do I need a Chip Resetter? If so, any particular one or are  they
all the 
> same?

No, the 1400's cartridges have auto-reset chips. They reset when both
the ink level (as known to the chip - not the actual level!) is low
enough -and- the machine is turned off or the carts removed. 

>  
> 5) Are there any good illustrated online tutorials on Cartridge
refilling -  
> suited as much as possible to my particular situation - that anyone
can direct 
>  me to?

Go to inksupply.com -> Refill kits -> Refill instructions -> Refilling
Epson R260, R380, RX580 Series Cartridges (these are the same basic
type as the 1400's)

>  
> Again, thanks for any help.
>  
> Rob
>

In a message dated 12/3/2008 11:43:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
efo@... writes:

<<But beware - at least a couple of us have ordered prefilled  EB6
carts only to find that they were incorrectly filled - instead of 
6  different densities of eboni, they had two different tones (warmtone
and  cooltone). So when you buy the bulk EB6 the inks will  be
different.>>
 
Thanks for the warning. I'll keep my eyes open for this possibility. I  think 
I got lucky in that regard, since the set of prefilled EB6 carts I got  seem 
to be producing prints exactly as described by Paul Roark in his PDF  article 
on the subject. In any case, I just ordered the 4 oz size bottles of  Eboni 6, 
as well as the refill "hardware" you listed. 
 
By the way, is it just me or do others here find the MIS website  rather 
difficult to navigate? The part numbers and links provided by you and  others on 
this forum have been quite handy, since I personally have been almost  entirely 
unable to find any of them by simply navigating the site. The Epson  1400 is 
not even listed in the printer choices when one is looking for inks. 
 
<<Go to inksupply.com -> Refill kits -> Refill instructions  -> Refilling
Epson R260, R380, RX580 Series Cartridges (these are the same  basic
type as the 1400's)>>
 
EXACTLY what I was looking for.
 
Thanks again.
 
Rob


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