Digital BW, The Print

Since there is no problem, legally, with refilling OEM Epson cartridges that
you have purchased and used personally, how would I drill the cartridges for
refilling in such a way as to not introduce small bits of plastic into the
carts, which may eventually clog the heads ? Or would the internal filter do
the job for me ?

 

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Brian Corll



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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Corll" 
<briancorll@...> wrote:
>
> Since there is no problem, legally, with refilling OEM Epson 
cartridges that
> you have purchased and used personally, how would I drill the 
cartridges for
> refilling in such a way as to not introduce small bits of plastic 
into the
> carts, which may eventually clog the heads ? Or would the internal 
filter do
> the job for me ?
> 
>  
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> 
> Brian Corll
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Have you tried the MIS refill kit? Seems to work OK. The only problem 
I have found is it takes half the ink in cleaning cycles to get the 
cartridges flowing again once refilled. Someone on the board may have 
a solution for this.


Best
Alistair

> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> Have you tried the MIS refill kit? Seems to work OK. The only problem 
> I have found is it takes half the ink in cleaning cycles to get the 
> cartridges flowing again once refilled. Someone on the board may have 
> a solution for this.
> 
> 
> Best
> Alistair
>


A syringe and bottom fill adaptor...?

Scott

Alistair
This might sound silly but when filling did you get air into the 
cartridge also did you let it rest for 10 min and then remove any air 
and ink out before putting it back into the printer.

Robert

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DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
<scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
>
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > 
> > Have you tried the MIS refill kit? Seems to work OK. The only 
problem 
> > I have found is it takes half the ink in cleaning cycles to get 
the 
> > cartridges flowing again once refilled. Someone on the board may 
have 

> > a solution for this.
> > 
> > 
> > Best
> > Alistair
> >
> 
> 
> A syringe and bottom fill adaptor...?
> 
> Scott
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
<scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> A syringe and bottom fill adaptor...?
> 
> Scott
>

I am using the MIS kit which has includes an adaptor and syringe. Is 
this what you mean or is there a better way?
Best
Alistair

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robertg491" 
<gemcolour@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Alistair
> This might sound silly but when filling did you get air into the 
> cartridge also did you let it rest for 10 min and then remove any air 
> and ink out before putting it back into the printer.
> 
> Robert
> 

Not silly at all Robert. I suspect I did get a little air into the 
cartridge. It seems very hard to get the last air bubble out of the tip 
of the syringe. Perhaps I could find a better way. As far as removing 
air and ink out before putting back in printer, sounds interesting. Can 
this be done with the OEM cartridges?

Best
Alistair

Hi 
I would say that 90% of epson can be refilled. But there are some 
that have a non return value in them. 

I fill 100's of this cartridges 
I found that you have to over fill by 10ml then rest for 2-3 hours 
with them stand upright Then remove the ink with any air Then you are 
ready to go.

I have made my own adaptors One for each model type.

Robert



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "hp9180profile" 
<owens@...> wrote:
>
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
> <scott_now_coming@> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > A syringe and bottom fill adaptor...?
> > 
> > Scott
> >
> 
> I am using the MIS kit which has includes an adaptor and syringe. 
Is 

> this what you mean or is there a better way?
> Best
> Alistair
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robertg491"
<gemcolour@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi 
> I would say that 90% of epson can be refilled. But there are some 
> that have a non return value in them. 

Inksupply.com (MIS inks) has a kit for about 11 dollars that will
refill OEM Epson carts with resettable chips. The resetter is about 10
dollars. all you need is a full set of Epson carts with chips to get
started. If you use their ink bottles of 4 oz, you save over a hundred
dollars a bottle over replacement original Epson carts. For eight
carts that make over 800 dollars saved.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny Eades

I understand that they don't have ink for r1900

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Johnny Eades <jeades1@...> wrote:

From: Johnny Eades <jeades1@...>
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:18 AM










    
            --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, "robertg491"

<gemcolour@. ..> wrote:

>

> 

> Hi 

> I would say that 90% of epson can be refilled. But there are some 

> that have a non return value in them. 



Inksupply.com (MIS inks) has a kit for about 11 dollars that will

refill OEM Epson carts with resettable chips. The resetter is about 10

dollars. all you need is a full set of Epson carts with chips to get

started. If you use their ink bottles of 4 oz, you save over a hundred

dollars a bottle over replacement original Epson carts. For eight

carts that make over 800 dollars saved.



Your friend in Photography,



Johnny Eades




      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "hp9180profile" 
<owens@...> wrote:
>
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
> <scott_now_coming@> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > A syringe and bottom fill adaptor...?
> > 
> > Scott
> >
> 
> I am using the MIS kit which has includes an adaptor and syringe. 
Is 
> this what you mean or is there a better way?
> Best
> Alistair
>

Yes, after re-filling the original Epson cart, I would think you 
could use the adaptor to remove a little bit of ink from the poppet 
valve, as a way to 'prime' the cart.

Scott

I checked with MIS. They are working on an Epson OEM cart refill kit for the
2880 but it is not available yet. None of the other kits will fit.

 

-----------------------------------------------------

Brian Corll

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Johnny
Eades
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:18 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges

 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "robertg491"
<gemcolour@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi 
> I would say that 90% of epson can be refilled. But there are some 
> that have a non return value in them. 

Inksupply.com (MIS inks) has a kit for about 11 dollars that will
refill OEM Epson carts with resettable chips. The resetter is about 10
dollars. all you need is a full set of Epson carts with chips to get
started. If you use their ink bottles of 4 oz, you save over a hundred
dollars a bottle over replacement original Epson carts. For eight
carts that make over 800 dollars saved.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny Eades

 



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They have color ink for the 1900.  It's not glossy if that's what
you're looking for.
http://www.inksupply.com/r800ink_org.cfm

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, RobLee
<roblee007@...> wrote:

>
> I understand that they don't have ink for r1900
> 
> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Johnny Eades <jeades1@...> wrote:
> From: Johnny Eades <jeades1@...>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:18 AM

and don't be too lazy to erase the previous posts of the ones you are  replying to. I'm getting 
tired of scrolling through endless replies quoting every post on the subject! It really isn't that 
hard to just select the few pertinent sentences on the post you are replying to and copying 
just those in your submission. It's called netiquette and is the polite way to do list postings.

thank you.

ncm

I understand your pain, but found it much easier to get them as  
individual e-mails so you can just delete any that you are not  
interested in and view the ones you are. I don't understand the  
reasoning for daily digest, could you explain to me the advantage?

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

Notice, I trimmed :)

On Dec 18, 2008, at 6:10 PM, ncmphoto wrote:

> and don't be too lazy to erase the previous posts of the ones you  
> are  replying to. I'm getting
> tired of scrolling through endless replies quoting every post on the  
> subject! It really isn't that
> hard to just select the few pertinent sentences on the post you are  
> replying to and copying
> just those in your submission. It's called netiquette and is the  
> polite way to do list postings.
>
> thank you.
>
> ncm

Sorry I meant to say R1800.
I'm thinking to get self resetting carts and refill them. However don't know which ink I should use to print color printing. Basically, I want my prints to be as good as using OEM ink. I don't know much about carts or ink, but am tired to pay for Epson ink.
How easy is to refill and use self resetting carts.
Thank you!

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Roger <rsmith02@...> wrote:

From: Roger <rsmith02@...>
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 4:38 PM










    
            They have color ink for the 1900.  It's not glossy if that's what

you're looking for.

http://www.inksuppl y.com/r800ink_ org.cfm



--- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, RobLee

<roblee007@. ..> wrote:

>

> I understand that they don't have ink for r1900

> 

> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Johnny Eades <jeades1@... > wrote:

> From: Johnny Eades <jeades1@... >

> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges

> To: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:18 AM




      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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Personally I prefer to receive the digest. I tend to preview the list
 of posts at the beginning of the digest, if there's nothing I'm
interested in I'd just delete the digest. The last digest which
prompted this replied had roughly 23 posts. Clicking through each
email to see whether you should delete it or not takes much more time
than seeing all of them at once in a single email, and the delete
takes just one click.

Nevertheless, trimming the quoted part of a reply can definitely
reduce wrist injuries  :)

--nick

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
<mark@...> wrote:

>
> I understand your pain, but found it much easier to get them as  
> individual e-mails so you can just delete any that you are not  
> interested in and view the ones you are. I don't understand the  
> reasoning for daily digest, could you explain to me the advantage?
> ...

I posted here and on the Epson printing group about my experiences:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/

At the link I sent you before there are inks for the R1800.

The MIS ink doesn't look like the OEM ink- it's not at all glossy.  I
think MIS looks better on semi-gloss type paper.  They look the same
to me on matte paper.  You'll need to custom profile the MIS inkset as
it's a bit different from the Epson.

Refilling is fairly easy but buy extra carts and chips because some do
fail.
Roger


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, RobLee
<roblee007@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry I meant to say R1800.
> I'm thinking to get self resetting carts and refill them. However
don't know which ink I should use to print color printing. Basically,
I want my prints to be as good as using OEM ink. I don't know much
about carts or ink, but am tired to pay for Epson ink.
> How easy is to refill and use self resetting carts.
> Thank you!
> 
> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Roger <rsmith02@...> wrote:
> From: Roger <rsmith02@...>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 4:38 PM
> 
>             They have color ink for the 1900.  It's not glossy if
that's what

> 
> you're looking for.
> 
> http://www.inksuppl y.com/r800ink_ org.cfm
> 
>

Digest form is only your choice. Deal with it.

gar

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On 12/18/2008 at 11:10 PM ncmphoto wrote:

>and don't be too lazy to erase the previous posts of the ones you are 
>replying to. I'm getting 
>tired of scrolling through endless replies quoting every post on the
>subject! It really isn't that 
>hard to just select the few pertinent sentences on the post you are
>replying to and copying 
>just those in your submission. It's called netiquette and is the polite
>way to do list postings.
>
>thank you.
>
>ncm
>

Gar,
I really dislike the digest form.  BUT, I 100% agree with ncm's basic  
point, namely, eliminate the non-germane quoted series of posts.    
Everyone benefits, whether you get the digest or individual emails.   
It wastes everyones time, both in downloading and reading.



On Dec 19, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Gary Weaver wrote:

> Digest form is only your choice. Deal with it.
>
> gar
>
>
>



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Gar -
Thanks for your COMMUNITY MINDED RESPONSE -  Not!

This has less to do with Digest than people who are too lazy to take  
ten or fifteen seconds to remove the superfluous repeats
at the end of their reply's. To do so, is standard internet protocol,  
and there are many groups who would ban members who
repeatedly refuse to follow those rules.

Why don't you try thinking we instead of me?

Clayton Price


Gar wrote:
Re: Please people, respect us who receive this list in digest form
  "Gary Weaver" garww@...   garww
Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:04 pm (PST)

Digest form is only your choice. Deal with it.

gar




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> This might sound silly but when filling did you get air into the 
> cartridge also did you let it rest for 10 min and then remove any air 
> and ink out before putting it back into the printer.
> 
> Robert

I've been using the MIS OEM refill kit with good results... after
filling I place the bottom fill adapter on the syringe and draw about
1 mil out, covering the air vent hole with a finger. This is supposed
to help with the air problem people are talking about. But, Robert,
I've heard that you have to get the cart back in the printer as soon
as possible, for me that's about 2-3 minutes, so the printer ports
don't dry out. What do you think? Is something to be concerned about?
Thank you!

Paul

> Digest form is only your choice. Deal with it.
> 
> gar

Gary is one of the worst offenders for not clipping posts. Perhaps he 
will do better in '09.

It must be horrible for blind people, too. Sorry

gar

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 12/20/2008 at 10:09 AM Clayton Price wrote:

>Gar -
>Thanks for your COMMUNITY MINDED RESPONSE -  Not!
>
>This has less to do with Digest than people who are too lazy to take  
>ten or fifteen seconds to remove the superfluous repeats
>at the end of their reply's. To do so, is standard internet protocol,  
>and there are many groups who would ban members who
>repeatedly refuse to follow those rules.
>
>Why don't you try thinking we instead of me?
>
>Clayton Price
>
>
>Gar wrote:
>Re: Please people, respect us who receive this list in digest form
>  "Gary Weaver" garww@...   garww
>Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:04 pm (PST)
>
>Digest form is only your choice. Deal with it.
>
>gar
>
>
>
>

One trick I've used to prevent the printhead spikes from drying out is to cover them with (clean) wet toilet tissue while I have the carts out.

Mike Brubaker



--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Paul Whiting <paulmwhiting@...> wrote:

> From: Paul Whiting <paulmwhiting@...>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:19 AM
> > This might sound silly but when filling did you get air
> into the 
> > cartridge also did you let it rest for 10 min and then
> remove any air 
> > and ink out before putting it back into the printer.
> > 
> > Robert
> 
> I've been using the MIS OEM refill kit with good
> results... after
> filling I place the bottom fill adapter on the syringe and
> draw about
> 1 mil out, covering the air vent hole with a finger. This
> is supposed
> to help with the air problem people are talking about. But,
> Robert,
> I've heard that you have to get the cart back in the
> printer as soon
> as possible, for me that's about 2-3 minutes, so the
> printer ports
> don't dry out. What do you think? Is something to be
> concerned about?
> Thank you!
> 
> Paul

On 20/12/2008 Gary Weaver wrote:
> Digest form is only your choice. Deal with it.

Indeed. If you switch to individual mails you can set up a filter to 
automatically delete unread any mail 'from: garww@...'

That'll solve the problem.

-- 
Regards

Tony Sleep
http://tonysleep.co.uk

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:

> I don't understand the  
> reasoning for daily digest, could you explain to me the advantage?
> 
> Mark

> Notice, I trimmed :)

Noticed and appreciated (g).

It's faster to go through a digest than manually opening closing deleting individual emails. 
There is a clickable list at the top of each digest and one can go directly to the thread/s 
one is interested in.

Also, as I subscribe to various lists, the amount of individual emails I would have to wade 
through on a daily basis would be daunting.

cheers,

ncm

Daily Digest Sample.  Maybe the following will help explain the daily digest option to those who haven't tried it. The last digest contained around two dozen individual messages all of which are contained in the single email of the digest. Below I've pasted the digest's table of contents which groups each message title under the appropriate topic, along with the message's author. In the full digest, these message titles are hot linked to all the messages which are provided in full beneath this table of contents (messages not included here for space reasons).  This makes it easy to just click the message title that interests you because it then drops down to the appropriate message below. It's really quite an elegant solution for those who do not want to get individual emails.
 
MK
 
Messages In This Digest (23 Messages) 


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Brubaker family
<brubaker_family@...> wrote:
>
> One trick I've used to prevent the printhead spikes from drying out
is to cover them with (clean) wet toilet tissue while I have the carts
out.
> 
> Mike Brubaker

Thanks Mike, sorry I didn't see your suggestion earlier. I'm a bit
behind in my forum reading. I'll try your tip next time I refill, it's
very simple and elegant - I like it!

Paul

do you refill R1800, if so what carts and ink do you use?

--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Paul Whiting <paulmwhiting@...> wrote:

From: Paul Whiting <paulmwhiting@...>
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 12:27 PM










    
            --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, Brubaker family

<brubaker_family@ ...> wrote:

>

> One trick I've used to prevent the printhead spikes from drying out

is to cover them with (clean) wet toilet tissue while I have the carts

out.

> 

> Mike Brubaker



Thanks Mike, sorry I didn't see your suggestion earlier. I'm a bit

behind in my forum reading. I'll try your tip next time I refill, it's

very simple and elegant - I like it!



Paul




      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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Rob,

Yes, I refill the R1800. I do black only printing with MIS' Eboni ink
in the two black and the glop positions, using Paul Roark's workflow.

In the color positions, I use the OEM color carts in their original
positions. After the color ran out I refilled them with MIS Cleaning
Fluid and do so whenever the Tool Kit shows them to be low. As for the
three black positions, I started with the MIS carts pre-filled with
Eboni, from MIS, and now that they've run out I refill those as well.

The refill techniques are different. For the OEM carts I use the MIS
OEM refill kit and for the black positions I use the MIS technique for
the spongeless carts. I hope this is the information you're looking
for! Let me know if I can tell you more,

Paul

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, RobLee
<roblee007@...> wrote:
>
> do you refill R1800, if so what carts and ink do you use?
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/23/08, Paul Whiting <paulmwhiting@...> wrote:
> From: Paul Whiting <paulmwhiting@...>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Refilling OEM Epson Cartridges
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 12:27 PM
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>             --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com,
Brubaker family

> 
> <brubaker_family@ ...> wrote:
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> > One trick I've used to prevent the printhead spikes from drying out
> 
> is to cover them with (clean) wet toilet tissue while I have the carts
> 
> out.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Mike Brubaker
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Mike, sorry I didn't see your suggestion earlier. I'm a bit
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> Paul
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