Digital BW, The Print

G'day all from Australia,
  I just bought the Epson 1410 (pretty sure it's the same as the
1400)as my first photgraph printer.  Funds didn't permit a more
expensive k3 jobby so I'm wondering if anyone has had ok results with
the MIS Ebony in the BO config whilst leaving Claria colours as they are.

I'm pretty sure it will print decent BO prints with the Ebony (QTR
Claria BO looks good to me... having said that I'm not a pro), but
will it still print in colour with MIS Ebony in the black position ?

I don't mind changing the black cartridge back to Claria to print
colour but will that drain all my ink away ?

I'll be displaying them in my house inside Acrylic wall mounts ... If
Claria gave me 80 years longevity, then I'm happy (I'll take good care
of the digital copies)... so do you guys think I really need carbon
inks ?  Do they look better than Claria black (I'm planning on using
Epson Premium Semi Gloss Paper).

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks guys.

Phil

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "phil_nuggent" 
<phil_nuggent@...> wrote:
>
> G'day all from Australia,
G'day to you too (from a Kiwi living in the UK)

>   I just bought the Epson 1410 (pretty sure it's the same as the
> 1400)as my first photgraph printer.  Funds didn't permit a more
> expensive k3 jobby so I'm wondering if anyone has had ok results 
with
> the MIS Ebony in the BO config whilst leaving Claria colours as 
they are.
I believe you are right, same as 1400. As long as you use only the 
eboni and do not try to add some of the Claria for toning you should 
be OK (although I have not personally tried it). You will need QTR or 
equivalent to be able to control the printer to only fire the eboni. N

> 
> I'm pretty sure it will print decent BO prints with the Ebony (QTR
> Claria BO looks good to me... having said that I'm not a pro), but
> will it still print in colour with MIS Ebony in the black position ?
> 
Yes it will, buy only on matt papers - eboni is an MK ink.


> I don't mind changing the black cartridge back to Claria to print
> colour but will that drain all my ink away ?
I am not sure of the compatability between Claria and eboni. You will 
need to check it out or you will ruin the printer if not compatible.

> 
> I'll be displaying them in my house inside Acrylic wall mounts ... 
If
> Claria gave me 80 years longevity, then I'm happy (I'll take good 
care
In that case I would tend to stay with the Claria black if you are 
happy with it.

> of the digital copies)... so do you guys think I really need carbon
> inks ?  Do they look better than Claria black (I'm planning on using
> Epson Premium Semi Gloss Paper).
then stick with Claria, Eboni is matt only unless you want to 
overspray

> 
> Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks guys.
> 
> Phil
>

Good luck!

Phil wrote:


>   I just bought the Epson 1410 ...
> I'm wondering if anyone has had ok results with
> the MIS Ebony in the BO config whilst leaving Claria 
> colours as they are.

On my 260, I found that a Claria black cart would not work with MIS 
color carts also installed.  I had to have all Claria or all MIS 
chips.  It might be the same with your 1410, but I have no way of 
knowing.  It was not a chemical problem but a chip and software 
problem.  The printer just would not accept mixed chips/carts.

 
> I'm pretty sure it will print decent BO prints with the Ebony

My 1400 does very well with Eboni BO.

> (QTR Claria BO looks good to me... having said that I'm not a pro)

If it's like my 260, you'll even get better B&W with QTR with some 
profiles that use just a bit of the color inks.  See 
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Claria-BW.pdf 


> will it still print in colour with MIS Ebony in the black position?

As noted above, I had to have all of one type of ink in the 260 to 
avoid the driver refusing to print.


>... so do you guys think I really need carbon inks?

If longevity is not a problem, I think you might be surprised at how 
good the Claria is with profiles such as I made and noted in the 
above PDF.  But, I don't think Claria is professional quality.  For 
fine art you'd want to go with carbon pigments.


>  Do they look better than Claria black (I'm planning on using
> Epson Premium Semi Gloss Paper).

Claria black has a rather ugly green tint.  But, again, see the PDF.

Good luck with your B&W.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com