--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "hp9180profile"
<owens@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob
Marsolais"
> <bob@> wrote:
> >
> > While experimenting with various mixtures for a new UT-R18, I've
had
> > my 1280 (which I wrote off due to a clogged head) sitting with
> > cleaning carts installed. I've run a couple of pages of purge
> > patterns every night for about two weeks and the heads are now
> > unclogged and giving a perfect nozzle test pattern again. It's
made
> > me think back as to which printer required less maintenance: the
> 1800
> > or 1280 with pigment inks. My memory says there was not much
> > difference maintenance-wise, and the 1280 did a real nice job with
> > it's 3.5(?) picoliter drops. It a whole lot slower than the
1800,
> but
> > it has a paper thickness adjustment which the 1800 does not.
> >
> > I'm assuming the 1280 would require LK inks for smooth midtones
> > because of the dot size, and, if I remember, Eboni diluted tends
to
> go
> > rather warm. Is this correct? If so, then the 1280 would use a
> wide
> > format ink set as compared to a 1.5 picoliter inkset.
> >
> > Am I crazy to consider using the 1280 as my B&W printer and
leaving
> > the 1800 for color? You have my permission to say so it I am!
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
> After being somewhat critical about the 1800 on this site, I am
> coming round to seeing it as a useful BW only printer. I have one
> loaded with 3mk, 3pk and 3 GO. Very flexible setup for neutral to
> warm BW prints on mk and pk paper. Enables printing of the
following
> using only carbon and GLOP and no color at all:
>
> 1. The 3mk gives neutral to warmish (paper dependent) carbon only
on
> matt paper
> 2. By firing one pk into the darkest tones and some GLOP over the
mk
> together with a 2nd pass of GLOP and you get neutral to warmish
> (paper dependent) carbon prints on photo paper.
> 3. By firing pk into the mid and lighter tones you get more control
> over the warm variations on photo papers.
>
> This may or may not give you the sepia tones you are after but
since
> it avoids using any yellows (or any color for that matter), it may
be
> worth some time and paper to see if a paper/curve combination will
> give you the tones you want.
>
> I am using the 4k version of PK which is all carbon and gives me a
> Dmax of up to 2.5 depending on paper. The k2 version is optimised
for
> maximum Dmax and will go quite a lot higher than this at 3.2+ but
as
> I understand it K2 contains color pigments to achieve this Dmax so
I
> have stuck with the 4k in this R1800.
>
> One does need to be ever vigilant of banding with the R1800 but I
> have found that with multiple inks in this set up it has not reared
> its head again.
>
> I am now looking at the possibilities of diluting one or two of the
> ink positions as I am seeing a little too much grain (for my taste)
> on photo papers in areas of very gradual light tone transitions.
Matt
> papers are very smooth, grain perhaps visible under a microscope
but
> not to my eyes.
>
> Regards
>
> Alistair Owens
>
I was just looking at an 1800 because the price was marked down. I
was going to use my 200 as a b&w printer.(too old and slow?) So can
someone tell me where to get the b&w carts for the 1800?