Digital BW, The Print

Recently my LM cart in my R2400 printer started skipping, so I decided 
to go with refilling the original Epson carts using MIS procedure which 
uses the Epson cart's fill hole on the bottom and the exit hole also. 
Inserting a syringe into the fill hole which has been opened and fitted 
with a filling device and inserting another syringe into the exit hole 
to catch the overflow ink and foam I proceeded to complete the 
operation successfully. Placing the refilled cart into the printer and 
running a couple of test patterns, I saw the LM was still not firing, 
at which point I put the old cart back into the printer. That cart is 
the MIS replacement carts that are clear and I could see that it was 
full also. I downloaded a LM purge image and ran it through the printer 
several times with no success. No ink is coming out of that particular 
nozzle. I had this happen with an old Epson 1280, which led me to the 
R2400. Has anyone had this problem and successfully solved it. Please 
respond.

Johnny Eades

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" 
<jeades1@...> wrote:
>
> Recently my LM cart in my R2400 printer started skipping, so I 
decided 
> to go with refilling the original Epson carts using MIS procedure 
which 
> uses the Epson cart's fill hole on the bottom and the exit hole 
also. 
> Inserting a syringe into the fill hole which has been opened and 
fitted 
> with a filling device and inserting another syringe into the exit 
hole 
> to catch the overflow ink and foam I proceeded to complete the 
> operation successfully. Placing the refilled cart into the printer 
and 
> running a couple of test patterns, I saw the LM was still not 
firing, 
> at which point I put the old cart back into the printer. That cart 
is 
> the MIS replacement carts that are clear and I could see that it 
was 
> full also. I downloaded a LM purge image and ran it through the 
printer 
> several times with no success. No ink is coming out of that 
particular 
> nozzle. I had this happen with an old Epson 1280, which led me to 
the 
> R2400. Has anyone had this problem and successfully solved it. 
Please 
> respond.
> 
> Johnny Eades
>

I have found that to get refilled OEM carts or non-OEM carts flowing 
requires a cleaning cycle. I have found no other way round it. 

Some say that it helps to draw a little of the ink out of the exit 
hole to get it flowing but I have never found this helps.

regards

Alistair

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "hp9180profile" 
<owens@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" 
> <jeades1@> wrote:
> >
> > Recently my LM cart in my R2400 printer started skipping, so I 
> decided 
> > to go with refilling the original Epson carts using MIS procedure 
> which 
> > uses the Epson cart's fill hole on the bottom and the exit hole 
> also. 
> > Inserting a syringe into the fill hole which has been opened and 
> fitted 
> > with a filling device and inserting another syringe into the exit 
> hole 
> > to catch the overflow ink and foam I proceeded to complete the 
> > operation successfully. Placing the refilled cart into the 
printer 
> and 
> > running a couple of test patterns, I saw the LM was still not 
> firing, 
> > at which point I put the old cart back into the printer. That 
cart 
> is 
> > the MIS replacement carts that are clear and I could see that it 
> was 
> > full also. I downloaded a LM purge image and ran it through the 
> printer 
> > several times with no success. No ink is coming out of that 
> particular 
> > nozzle. I had this happen with an old Epson 1280, which led me to 
> the 
> > R2400. Has anyone had this problem and successfully solved it. 
> Please 
> > respond.
> > 
> > Johnny Eades
> >
> 
> I have found that to get refilled OEM carts or non-OEM carts 
flowing 
> requires a cleaning cycle. I have found no other way round it. 
> 
> Some say that it helps to draw a little of the ink out of the exit 
> hole to get it flowing but I have never found this helps.
> 
> regards
> 
> Alistair
>
I have gone through cleaning cycles and purge prints more than 3 
times and after letting the printer sit overnight there is still no 
ink coming from that cartridge at all. I still haven't tried the 
syring and tubing on the printhead input nozzle trick with 1:9 
ammonia water mixture yet. That is next.

Johnny Eades

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" 
<jeades1@...> wrote:
>

> >
> I have gone through cleaning cycles and purge prints more than 3 
> times and after letting the printer sit overnight there is still no 
> ink coming from that cartridge at all. I still haven't tried the 
> syring and tubing on the printhead input nozzle trick with 1:9 
> ammonia water mixture yet. That is next.
> 
> Johnny Eades
>
HHmmm, that would be a last resort move John. You risk damaging the 
head beyound repair if you pressurise it and delaminate the thing. They 
are quite delicate. Also, it does not sound like the problem is with a 
clclog anyway. It sounds like an airlock or some other issue with the 
caatridge.

I have found some success in filling the cartridge until ink starts to 
come out of the exit hole and THEN draw out 1/4 to 1/2 ml of ink and 
bubbles out of the exit hole. Put the cart back in and give it a 
cleaning cycle after leaving it standing for a couple of hours.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" <jeades1@...> 
wrote:
>
> Recently my LM cart in my R2400 printer started skipping, so I decided 
> to go with refilling the original Epson carts using MIS procedure which 
> uses the Epson cart's fill hole on the bottom and the exit hole also. 
> Inserting a syringe into the fill hole which has been opened and fitted 
> with a filling device and inserting another syringe into the exit hole 
> to catch the overflow ink and foam I proceeded to complete the 
> operation successfully. Placing the refilled cart into the printer and 
> running a couple of test patterns, I saw the LM was still not firing, 
> at which point I put the old cart back into the printer. That cart is 
> the MIS replacement carts that are clear and I could see that it was 
> full also. I downloaded a LM purge image and ran it through the printer 
> several times with no success. No ink is coming out of that particular 
> nozzle. I had this happen with an old Epson 1280, which led me to the 
> R2400. Has anyone had this problem and successfully solved it. Please 
> respond.
> 
> Johnny Eades


Have you tried re-seating the exit valve by inserting (more than once perhaps) a bent 
paper clip?

Harry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "hp9180profile" 
<owens@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" 
> <jeades1@> wrote:
> >
> 
> > >
> > I have gone through cleaning cycles and purge prints more than 3 
> > times and after letting the printer sit overnight there is still 
no 
> > ink coming from that cartridge at all. I still haven't tried the 
> > syring and tubing on the printhead input nozzle trick with 1:9 
> > ammonia water mixture yet. That is next.
> > 
> > Johnny Eades
> >
> HHmmm, that would be a last resort move John. You risk damaging the 
> head beyound repair if you pressurise it and delaminate the thing. 
They 
> are quite delicate. Also, it does not sound like the problem is 
with a 
> clclog anyway. It sounds like an airlock or some other issue with 
the 
> caatridge.
> 
> I have found some success in filling the cartridge until ink starts 
to 
> come out of the exit hole and THEN draw out 1/4 to 1/2 ml of ink 
and 
> bubbles out of the exit hole. Put the cart back in and give it a 
> cleaning cycle after leaving it standing for a couple of hours.
>
I did as you suggested above and it has started working now. I had 
the same problem on two just filled cartridges for that same color. 
go figure!! I guess one of the best lessons printers give us is to 
develop patience and perseverance. Thanks for the solution.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny Eades

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" 
<jeades1@...> wrote:
>

> I did as you suggested above and it has started working now. I had 
> the same problem on two just filled cartridges for that same color. 
> go figure!! I guess one of the best lessons printers give us is to 
> develop patience and perseverance. Thanks for the solution.
> 
> Your friend in Photography,
> 
> Johnny Eades
>

That is great Johnny, glad I could be of some help. Good luck with it.

best

Alistair