Digital BW, The Print

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> I'd like recommendations.  I'm debating whether to convert my 2400 to piezography or whether to get a 1400 with piezography package.  The cost difference doesn't seem like that much.  I'm interested in the print qualities people are observing.
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> A little background:  I was quite happy using a 2200 with the UT-7 inkset but that printer died and I was then seduced by the glamour of the new fibre-type papers in the K3 2400 printer.  Now I find myself missing the beauties of carbon on matte.
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> Ed
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> If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> Jon Cone 
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > I'd like recommendations.  I'm debating whether to convert my 2400 to piezography or whether to get a 1400 with piezography package.  The cost difference doesn't seem like that much.  I'm interested in the print qualities people are observing.
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> > A little background:  I was quite happy using a 2200 with the UT-7 inkset but that printer died and I was then seduced by the glamour of the new fibre-type papers in the K3 2400 printer.  Now I find myself missing the beauties of carbon on matte.
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> > Ed
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> I haven't seen any prints made with the Special Edition inks.  Is there a sample image or images on the web?
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> > Jon Cone 
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > I'd like recommendations.  I'm debating whether to convert my 2400 to piezography or whether to get a 1400 with piezography package.  The cost difference doesn't seem like that much.  I'm interested in the print qualities people are observing.
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> > > A little background:  I was quite happy using a 2200 with the UT-7 inkset but that printer died and I was then seduced by the glamour of the new fibre-type papers in the K3 2400 printer.  Now I find myself missing the beauties of carbon on matte.
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> > > Ed
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> Jon
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > I haven't seen any prints made with the Special Edition inks.  Is there a sample image or images on the web?
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> > > Jon Cone 
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > please email dana (at) inkjetmall (dot) com 
> > she can send you a small sample print
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> Jon, a question:  you provide QTR profiles for this inkset.  Does the individual user then linearize them for their particular printer?  If not, do you find the tolerances of the 1400 printer to be good enough that you can use a canned profile with consistently good results?
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> > Jon
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > I haven't seen any prints made with the Special Edition inks.  Is there a sample image or images on the web?
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> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > > If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> > > > Jon Cone 
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> The user does not have to linearize a Piezography curve to produce very high standard results. It is the complexity (multiple inks in each gradation sep) of Piezography K6 and K7 curves that make any of the supported printers' tolerances more than adequate.
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> Jon
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > please email dana (at) inkjetmall (dot) com 
> > > she can send you a small sample print
> > > 
> > Jon, a question:  you provide QTR profiles for this inkset.  Does the individual user then linearize them for their particular printer?  If not, do you find the tolerances of the 1400 printer to be good enough that you can use a canned profile with consistently good results?
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> > > Jon
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> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > > I haven't seen any prints made with the Special Edition inks.  Is there a sample image or images on the web?
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> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > > > If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> > > > > Jon Cone 
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> So, you could say it's plug and play?
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > The user does not have to linearize a Piezography curve to produce very high standard results. It is the complexity (multiple inks in each gradation sep) of Piezography K6 and K7 curves that make any of the supported printers' tolerances more than adequate.
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> > Jon
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > > please email dana (at) inkjetmall (dot) com 
> > > > she can send you a small sample print
> > > > 
> > > Jon, a question:  you provide QTR profiles for this inkset.  Does the individual user then linearize them for their particular printer?  If not, do you find the tolerances of the 1400 printer to be good enough that you can use a canned profile with consistently good results?
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> > > > Jon
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> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > > > I haven't seen any prints made with the Special Edition inks.  Is there a sample image or images on the web?
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> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > > > > If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> Yes. That's the big feature behind Piezography. It just works realy well, and does so at a very high standard.
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> Jon
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > So, you could say it's plug and play?
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The user does not have to linearize a Piezography curve to produce very high standard results. It is the complexity (multiple inks in each gradation sep) of Piezography K6 and K7 curves that make any of the supported printers' tolerances more than adequate.
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> > > Jon
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> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > please email dana (at) inkjetmall (dot) com 
> > > > > she can send you a small sample print
> > > > > 
> > > > Jon, a question:  you provide QTR profiles for this inkset.  Does the individual user then linearize them for their particular printer?  If not, do you find the tolerances of the 1400 printer to be good enough that you can use a canned profile with consistently good results?
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> > > > > Jon
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> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@> wrote:
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> > > > > > I haven't seen any prints made with the Special Edition inks.  Is there a sample image or images on the web?
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> > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > If you like the Piezography Special Edition inks, then go with the 1400. Those inks and the curves architecture for them were matched to each other while being designed on the 1400. It is the purest implementation of Piezography Special Edition which is a very subtle yet complex split tone - from neutral highlights through selenium into warm shadows.
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> > > > > > > Jon Cone 
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
> >I can attest  to the ease of use  and quality of the K6SE inkset and the 1400 - without linearizing anything - What is necessary for the user to fully realize the potential of this combination is a very careful and informed practice of image capture and non-destructive editing in Photoshop
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> Berel Lutsky