Digital BW, The Print

Hi all,

I just received some new UTBO Eboni for  the R1800 3mk set-up. I have not ordered anything from them in awhile and I notice their cartridges look a little different. There is no longer a small tab to remove....at least I don't see one. And no ink is coming out of of either the mk or pk position AT ALL, even after a shake and a head cleaning.

What am I missing??

Thank you,
Sarah

"sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I just received some new UTBO Eboni for  the R1800 3mk set-up. I have not ordered anything from them in awhile and I notice their cartridges look a little different. There is no longer a small tab to remove....at least I don't see one. And no ink is coming out of of either the mk or pk position AT ALL, even after a shake and a head cleaning.


Is there a rubber plug near the back of the cart?

Thank you, Paul!!! It's things like this that make me feel simultaneously like a complete retard and so thankful for this board.

Sarah


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote:

>
> "sagaface" <sagaface@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I just received some new UTBO Eboni for  the R1800 3mk set-up. I have not ordered anything from them in awhile and I notice their cartridges look a little different. There is no longer a small tab to remove....at least I don't see one. And no ink is coming out of of either the mk or pk position AT ALL, even after a shake and a head cleaning.
> 
> 
> Is there a rubber plug near the back of the cart?
>

Darn it, still not a drop. Should I be shaking the heck out of the cartridges?



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:

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> Thank you, Paul!!! It's things like this that make me feel simultaneously like a complete retard and so thankful for this board.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <paul.roark@> wrote:
> >
> > "sagaface" <sagaface@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I just received some new UTBO Eboni for  the R1800 3mk set-up. I have not ordered anything from them in awhile and I notice their cartridges look a little different. There is no longer a small tab to remove....at least I don't see one. And no ink is coming out of of either the mk or pk position AT ALL, even after a shake and a head cleaning.
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a rubber plug near the back of the cart?
> >
>

Well, I've shaken them, done a couple head cleans and all that's happened is that all my brand new ink has gone down about a 1/4...and I haven't printed a single photo. The eboni in the glop position comes out, but that was one of the older cartridges.

Has anyone had this problem? Am I still missing something? I have a print job waaaay overdue and I'm now worried that I won't be able to print at all.

Sarah

"sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:

Shaking the carts probably mostly makes foam, which is a problem.  Foam will settle down if left alone for a while.

When you tried to use the cart without pulling out the air intake plug, it might have pulled air into the outlet -- and probably also made foam there.  It's possible the outlet will slowly fill overnight.  So, let the printer sit overnight and try a nozzle check in the morning.  

If that doesn't work, you may need to prime the cart.  To do this you remove the plug over the reservoir, put the easier to remove plug back in the air inlet, and pull a little ink out the outlet with a syringe and modified bottom fill adapter. After that put the tabbed plug in the reservoir fill hole, leaving the air intake open, and put the cart back in the printer.  Probably allowing it to sit for a while is not a bad idea.  You may still need a cleaning or two.  But don't do too many of those at once.  Much of the problem with these inks is foam.  It just needs to settle down for a while.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Ok, this is my last post before I give up for the night and wait to call MIS in the morning.

There are actually three rubber plugs on these things: one on the bottom and two at either side on the top. Should I be removing any of them? 

Paul, when you asked if there was a plug, I at first only noticed the bottom one and removed it. I think this was not right, but in any case it did not make any ink come out, and I've replaced it. My nozzle checks turn up complete paper white for both mk and pk positions. Glop position flowing fine, but as I mentioned, this was an older MIS cartridge.

I'm stumped.

Sarah





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:

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> Well, I've shaken them, done a couple head cleans and all that's happened is that all my brand new ink has gone down about a 1/4...and I haven't printed a single photo. The eboni in the glop position comes out, but that was one of the older cartridges.
> 
> Has anyone had this problem? Am I still missing something? I have a print job waaaay overdue and I'm now worried that I won't be able to print at all.
> 
> Sarah
>

You beat my post, Paul. I'll do as you suggest and give it a rest overnight.

Thanks for your help,
Sarah


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote:

>
> "sagaface" <sagaface@> wrote:
> 
> Shaking the carts probably mostly makes foam, which is a problem.  Foam will settle down if left alone for a while.
> 
> When you tried to use the cart without pulling out the air intake plug, it might have pulled air into the outlet -- and probably also made foam there.  It's possible the outlet will slowly fill overnight.  So, let the printer sit overnight and try a nozzle check in the morning.  
> 
> If that doesn't work, you may need to prime the cart.  To do this you remove the plug over the reservoir, put the easier to remove plug back in the air inlet, and pull a little ink out the outlet with a syringe and modified bottom fill adapter. After that put the tabbed plug in the reservoir fill hole, leaving the air intake open, and put the cart back in the printer.  Probably allowing it to sit for a while is not a bad idea.  You may still need a cleaning or two.  But don't do too many of those at once.  Much of the problem with these inks is foam.  It just needs to settle down for a while.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

"sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:
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It sounds like MIS might have gone to a new cart type.  The ones I'm familiar with have 2 plugs on top.  Often the reservoir plug is flush with the top to discourage people from removing it.  The air intake plug is usually on the top of the cart near the back.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

There still are two plugs on the top, one near the front (which I'm assuming is the side facing into the printer when installed?), and one at the back (which is the side where the chip is?). Are you saying that one is the air intake hole? There is also a hole with no plug in between those plugs....which is...what? Man, do I feel clueless!

On the bottom, I am also assuming the reservoir plug is the one where the ink comes out, and the new cartridges have clear plastic over them that gets punctured when you install the cart. Is there something in this hole that can be removed? Next to that is the other plug....what does this hole do? All three I have mentioned are easily removable. But if there is also one in the reservoir I don't see it.

Sorry for the Ink Cartridge 101 questions!

Sarah 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote:

>
> "sagaface" <sagaface@> wrote:
> >
> 
> It sounds like MIS might have gone to a new cart type.  The ones I'm familiar with have 2 plugs on top.  Often the reservoir plug is flush with the top to discourage people from removing it.  The air intake plug is usually on the top of the cart near the back.  
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

"sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:
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> There still are two plugs on the top, one near the front (which I'm assuming is the side facing into the printer when installed?), and one at the back (which is the side where the chip is?). Are you saying that one is the air intake hole? There is also a hole with no plug in between those plugs....which is...what? Man, do I feel clueless!

These sound like newer carts than I have for the 1800.  I'm guessing that back plug is the air intake.  However, you may want to contact MIS to be sure.

You generally don't touch anything on the bottom of the cart.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

I have one of their newer carts for my R220 but I believe those are the same physically as those for the R1800 ... only the chip is different. I noticed it was shorter and yes it did have a plug in the air intake port. But the plug has a small hold down the middle so I didn't worry about it. Of course I have MIS cleaning fluid so I have no way of telling if the fluid is flowing. But I can see the level has gone down so it _must_ be flowing.

Also, when installed it doesn't have quite the reassuring "click" as the old ones but it seems to fit ok.

Hope this helps,

Paul

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" <sagaface@...> wrote:

>
> Ok, this is my last post before I give up for the night and wait to call MIS in the morning.
> 
> There are actually three rubber plugs on these things: one on the bottom and two at either side on the top. Should I be removing any of them? 
> 
> Paul, when you asked if there was a plug, I at first only noticed the bottom one and removed it. I think this was not right, but in any case it did not make any ink come out, and I've replaced it. My nozzle checks turn up complete paper white for both mk and pk positions. Glop position flowing fine, but as I mentioned, this was an older MIS cartridge.
> 
> I'm stumped.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" <sagaface@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I've shaken them, done a couple head cleans and all that's happened is that all my brand new ink has gone down about a 1/4...and I haven't printed a single photo. The eboni in the glop position comes out, but that was one of the older cartridges.
> > 
> > Has anyone had this problem? Am I still missing something? I have a print job waaaay overdue and I'm now worried that I won't be able to print at all.
> > 
> > Sarah
> >
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "paulmwhiting" <paulmwhiting@...> wrote:
>
> I have one of their newer carts for my R220 but I believe those are the same physically as those for the R1800 ... only the chip is different. I noticed it was shorter and yes it did have a plug in the air intake port. But the plug has a small hold down the middle so I didn't worry about it. Of course I have MIS cleaning fluid so I have no way of telling if the fluid is flowing

add the phrase: "by looking at the print"

> But I can see the level has gone down so it _must_ be flowing.