Digital BW, The Print

Martin just put into the Files section of the forum a Photoshop Image
Adjustment curve and workflow/settings description that I use for printing
MIS FS (or Piezo) inks with the Epson 3000 driver, using a PC.  It is
profiled for EAM.  As one might expect, it is slightly rougher than the 1440
Piezo, but faster and about as smooth as the Piezo 720 (at least with my
machine). Overall, I prefer it to the Piezo driver for 16x20 prints on the
3000.  It delivers better blacks, and the Epson driver doesn't stop me from
using the computer while printing.

You can find the curve/workflow at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
Then go to > Inksets, reviews and techniques > MIS FS > 3000 MIS FS & Piezo
Workflow.

The settings are: Source space - Adobe RGB (1998), Print space - Same as
Source, SuperFine 1440, Color ink, Super Micro Weave, No Color Adjustment,
Media Type - Ink Jet Back Lit Film.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Martin just put into the Files section of the forum a Photoshop
Image
> Adjustment curve and workflow/settings description that I use...

One imagines something more like this-

I was able to slightly modify Tyler's Eclipse curves for the 3000 and
Piezo inks (thank you Carolyn) to work well for EAM and the MIS inks
I use.
I hope it will be useful to others in some way, you will find it
here...

To which I may have replied-
I'm glad you were able to make some use of that workflow, thank you
for posting your curves. You may also be interested in trying these, I
made them for the Hahnemühle papers, but they seem to work very
well on EAM.
I think you will find them more dot free and smoother in dither. All
the settings are the same, just different curves which you may
download here-
http://www.tylerboley.com/PzRgb3kBlfEam.acv.sit
These are for Piezo inks, they look strange but print well, I hope
this helps with the MIS set, good luck in your efforts.

But then one imagines so many things...
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "tboleyyh" <tyler@t...> 
wrote:

<snip>
 
> But then one imagines so many things...

Tyler:

Me "imagines" thou doeth protest too much. <smile>

I just printed out screen shots of your 3000 partitioned RGB curves 
and Paul Roarks for a side by side comparison.  Although there is a 
vague resemblence, there are after all, only so many ways to draw the 
curves (convergent evolution?). The RGB values are very very 
different -- with many points being 10 to 20% or more apart.

Paul can speak for himself, but having earned the right to comment 
after spending many hours refineing my 1160 MIS-FS partitioned RGB 
curves, in my opinion, Paul's curves are not any where near meer 
tweaks or minor refinements of your work.  You both deserve a great 
deal of credit from all of us for sharing your efforts.  Thanks!!

Jeff Randall

Jeff wrote:
snip...
> Paul can speak for himself, but having earned the right to comment
> after spending many hours refineing my 1160 MIS-FS partitioned RGB
> curves, in my opinion, Paul's curves are not any where near meer
> tweaks or minor refinements of your work.  You both deserve a great
> deal of credit from all of us for sharing your efforts.  Thanks!!
> 
> Jeff Randall

Jeff,

With respect, you have misunderstood Tylers post. You compared the wrong
sets of curves.

The curves and workflow that Tyler is referring to is what he developed long
ago and it is posted in the files section. Paul asked if anyone had any
curves for the 3000 and Piezo/FS inks. I linked Paul to Tylers files. Paul
then tweaked those curves and posted them with Tylers workflow.

Tyler responded with a well thought out and kind post to Paul... and then
added some new curves and a workflow that he has recently developed with
smoother dither etc.  Those new curves are the ones you mistakingly compared
to the ones Paul posted.

Tyler's post was quite clear.

... earned the right to comment after spending many hours refining your
curve? Perhaps spending many many years developing workflows and helping
others would lend more prudence.

Sincerely,
Carolyn