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I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:

Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'. 

What branded paper is it most similar to. 

And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.

I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.

It is:
Media Street
Royal Renaissance
189 gsm (11x17)

Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you think anyone else here is interested too.
Thanks,
Frank

Hmm, it has been a long time since I used papers from Media Street. If it is pebbly, as in large undulating "moguls", it is Hanhnemuhle Torchon. If it is smooth, it it Hahnemuhle Photo Rag. The one I remember for sure is that Royal Jazz = William Turner.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <frankgross@...> wrote:

>
> I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> 
> Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'. 
> 
> What branded paper is it most similar to. 
> 
> And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> 
> I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> 
> It is:
> Media Street
> Royal Renaissance
> 189 gsm (11x17)
> 
> Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you think anyone else here is interested too.
> Thanks,
> Frank
>

I jumped too fast. It is Photo Rag. See

http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/inkjet-media/fine-art-canvas/royal-renaissance-photo-rag-309-gsm-19-mil-sheet.html



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <frankgross@...> wrote:

>
> I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> 
> Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'. 
> 
> What branded paper is it most similar to. 
> 
> And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> 
> I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> 
> It is:
> Media Street
> Royal Renaissance
> 189 gsm (11x17)
> 
> Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you think anyone else here is interested too.
> Thanks,
> Frank
>

I'm not sure - the sealed pack i have (25sheet 11x17) is only 189 gsm weight and the one you linked to is 309 gsm

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "shileshjani" <janishilesh@...> wrote:

>
> I jumped too fast. It is Photo Rag. See
> 
> http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/inkjet-media/fine-art-canvas/royal-renaissance-photo-rag-309-gsm-19-mil-sheet.html
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <frankgross@> wrote:
> >
> > I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> > 
> > Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'. 
> > 
> > What branded paper is it most similar to. 
> > 
> > And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> > 
> > I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> > 
> > It is:
> > Media Street
> > Royal Renaissance
> > 189 gsm (11x17)
> > 
> > Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you think anyone else here is interested too.
> > Thanks,
> > Frank
> >
>

....also, besides that i dont think Photorag is made in such a thin weight (189 gsm),  I just cracked open the pack and see that it's quite a 'warm' paper, more like a 'natural' white....Isn't Photo Rag a 'bright' white ?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "shileshjani" <janishilesh@...> wrote:

>
> I jumped too fast. It is Photo Rag. See
> 
> http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/inkjet-media/fine-art-canvas/royal-renaissance-photo-rag-309-gsm-19-mil-sheet.html
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <frankgross@> wrote:
> >
> > I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> > 
> > Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'. 
> > 
> > What branded paper is it most similar to. 
> > 
> > And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> > 
> > I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> > 
> > It is:
> > Media Street
> > Royal Renaissance
> > 189 gsm (11x17)
> > 
> > Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you think anyone else here is interested too.
> > Thanks,
> > Frank
> >
>

A Google search on "Media Street Royal Royal Renaissance" brings up a lot of
links about it particularly right from the producer of the paper.  I
remember in the past it was often used in place of Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, the
more light-weight version.

-- 
Richard S.
Albany, CA (San Francisco bay area)

My Photography Website
http://www.lightshadowandtone.com

My Flickr River
http://flickriver.com/photos/rich8155/popular-interesting/


On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:34 AM, frankg_photo <frankgross@...> wrote:

>
>
> I'm not sure - the sealed pack i have (25sheet 11x17) is only 189 gsm
> weight and the one you linked to is 309 gsm
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "shileshjani" <janishilesh@...> wrote:
> >
> > I jumped too fast. It is Photo Rag. See
> >
> >
> http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/inkjet-media/fine-art-canvas/royal-renaissance-photo-rag-309-gsm-19-mil-sheet.html
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "frankg_photo" <frankgross@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I
> would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> > >
> > > Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'.
> > >
> > > What branded paper is it most similar to.
> > >
> > > And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> > >
> > > I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> > >
> > > It is:
> > > Media Street
> > > Royal Renaissance
> > > 189 gsm (11x17)
> > >
> > > Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you
> think anyone else here is interested too.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Frank
> > >
> >
>
>  
>


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Hahnemuhle Photo Rag comes in a 188gsm version and comes in a Bright White
version too.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:56 AM, frankg_photo <frankgross@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> ....also, besides that i dont think Photorag is made in such a thin weight
> (189 gsm), I just cracked open the pack and see that it's quite a 'warm'
> paper, more like a 'natural' white....Isn't Photo Rag a 'bright' white ?
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "shileshjani" <janishilesh@...> wrote:
> >
> > I jumped too fast. It is Photo Rag. See
> >
> >
> http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/inkjet-media/fine-art-canvas/royal-renaissance-photo-rag-309-gsm-19-mil-sheet.html
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "frankg_photo" <frankgross@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I
> would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> > >
> > > Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'.
> > >
> > > What branded paper is it most similar to.
> > >
> > > And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> > >
> > > I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> > >
> > > It is:
> > > Media Street
> > > Royal Renaissance
> > > 189 gsm (11x17)
> > >
> > > Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you
> think anyone else here is interested too.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Frank
> > >
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
Richard S.
Albany, CA (San Francisco bay area)

My Photography Website
http://www.lightshadowandtone.com

My Flickr River
http://flickriver.com/photos/rich8155/popular-interesting/


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Oops! found it here:
http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/25-sheets-11-x-17-royal-renaissance-photo-rag-189-gsm.html
Thanks for your help !
(must say I'm still surprised by the 'warmth' as I though Photo Rag was 'brighter'?)

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "shileshjani" <janishilesh@...> wrote:

>
> I jumped too fast. It is Photo Rag. See
> 
> http://mediastreetbyink2image.com/index.php/inkjet-media/fine-art-canvas/royal-renaissance-photo-rag-309-gsm-19-mil-sheet.html
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <frankgross@> wrote:
> >
> > I just moved my workspace and came across a sealed pack of paper that I would like to know more about - particularly what it's characteristics are:
> > 
> > Is it a 'bright white' or a 'natural/warm'. 
> > 
> > What branded paper is it most similar to. 
> > 
> > And mostly, what profile or printer settings are applicable.
> > 
> > I tried the original supplier but didn't get anywhere.
> > 
> > It is:
> > Media Street
> > Royal Renaissance
> > 189 gsm (11x17)
> > 
> > Hopefully someone knows it and can help. Please email me unless you think anyone else here is interested too.
> > Thanks,
> > Frank
> >
>

On 05/01/2010 frankg_photo wrote:
> (must say I'm still surprised by the 'warmth' as I though Photo Rag 
> was 'brighter'?)

It depends how old it is!. The OBA's in HPR base don't last long.
-- 
Regards

Tony Sleep
http://tonysleep.co.uk

It's quite old (not sure how long I've had it but for a couple of years).
If optical brighteners don't last a print you make now may be yellowed after a few years ?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tony Sleep <TonySleep@...> wrote:

>
> On 05/01/2010 frankg_photo wrote:
> > (must say I'm still surprised by the 'warmth' as I though Photo Rag 
> > was 'brighter'?)
> 
> It depends how old it is!. The OBA's in HPR base don't last long.
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Tony Sleep
> http://tonysleep.co.uk
>

The warmth of these sheets may be due to a different phenomenom other than loss of OBA. Try to let a sheet  be exposed to daylight for some hours and compare it to the others. And, surprisingly, if you let it in the darkness for a long period, it may turn yellowish again. It happened to me in a box of old Smooth Fine Art Paper 425 ( just in one box out of 10 ) and I "recovered" all the sheets from that box exposing them to a UV lamp for some hours. I have heard this can happen with Hahnemühle Photo Rag too. 

    Renato

--- Em ter, 5/1/10, frankg_photo <frankgross@gmail.com> escreveu:

De: frankg_photo <frankgross@...>
Assunto: [Digital BW] Re: ID 'ing  paper - Royal Rennaissance
Para: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Data: Terça-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2010, 17:15







 



  


    
      
      
      It's quite old (not sure how long I've had it but for a couple of years).

If optical brighteners don't last a print you make now may be yellowed after a few years ?



--- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Sleep <TonySleep@. ..> wrote:

>

> On 05/01/2010 frankg_photo wrote:

> > (must say I'm still surprised by the 'warmth' as I though Photo Rag 

> > was 'brighter'?)

> 

> It depends how old it is!. The OBA's in HPR base don't last long.

> -- 

> Regards

> 

> Tony Sleep

> http://tonysleep. co.uk

>





    
     

    
    


 



  






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