Hi Bakis, list, Here are a few more suggestions for new modules. First of all I have to say that the ideas are not at all 'mine', but are all inspired by the insights of William Sethares. If there was something like a Nobel prize for music, Mr. Sethares would surely get it for his deep insights in the relation between timbre (spectrum) and scale. For more info check his website: http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/ttss.html or his book 'Tuning Timbre Spectrum Scale' or this java applet that shows how to derive a scale from an fm- sound: http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/forrestjava/html/TuningAndTi mbre.html Now: suggestions for modules: 1. Equal Temperament Quantizer Think of a single A-156 without the three switches, but with one extra added knob (or perhaps two knobs/jack input for cv control). The A-156 is based on 12 tone equal temperament (12-tet) which means that it devides an octave in 12 equal steps of 100 cents. This is very good for natural sounds, which is why the 12-tet is so very very popular. But there are more possible equal temperaments. And allthough it is allready possible to create other et's than the 12-tet by attenuating the signal from the A-156, this will only give you et's with steps that are *smaller* than 100 cents. If you want bigger equal steps this is not doable with the A-156. So an equal temperament quantizer would have an added knob to decide in how many steps an octave would be devided. n=1: only octaves (1200 cents) n=2: octave and tritone (600 cents) n=3: 3 steps of 400 cents etc. probably up to 12, or maybe up to 24 or 25 Note for Dieter: maybe this is allready possible with the upcoming TKB-controller? And if so, does it work just like a quantizer, or is there a difference? And I guess it would be possible to derive note- sequences from any cv-source, not just from the TKB? 2. Timbral Quantizer If you check out the relation between the harmonic spectrum of a certain sound (frequency and level of partials) and the intervals or chords made with that sound which are most pleasing or consonant sounding, you find that for most 'natural' sounds (like an acoustic guitar) the 12 tone temperament is great, because in 12-tet the partials don't tend to clash, so to speak. (Generally speaking of course, because you *can* come up with awful chords if you really want to) But for e.g. metallic sounds, or indeed for lots of *electronic* sounds, this is not the case. This is why it is especially interesting to experiment with different scales and tunings if you are into metallic sounds (gamelan, metallic xylophones etc.) or if you're into electronic music!! The beauty is that there is now mathematics available (thank you Mr. Sethares) to derive a fitting customized scale, that is optimized for consonance, from almost any type sound/timbre. This is usually done using Fourier analysis. But I don't want to propose a Fourier analysis module, because it is possible to derive the necessary information in another way, if you know the 'recipe' or 'settings' of a sound/timbre. This method could definitely work for additive synthesis and fm (maybe for analog fm). So I would propose a dedicated fm-operator or sine bank or ring modulator that can be 'read' (preferably real time) by a timbral quantizer so the quantizer can calculate a scale that 'fits' the current sound/timbre best. The number of steps in the scale would be optional, and probably voltage controllable. 3. Expansion module for all quantizers (hopefully including A-156) for creating scales and arpeggio's A module that would probably contain 24 or 32 jack outputs (+ led's) that output only a certain step/value/note or whatever you want to call it in the current tuning, through all octaves. By selecting certain outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g. in 12-tet output 1 only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output 3 only outputs d- values etc. Each individual step/value can now be further processed, or certain steps can be grouped using multiples etc. For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it should be possible to 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or so) so you can even make different scales/pick out different combinations of notes in different octaves, which means you could do al kinds of arpeggio's, spanning perhaps 4-6 octaves. OK, that's enough ;-) By the way, if the list likes the idea, I bet Mr. Sethares would be willing to participate in the design of the timbral quantizer. He can be found at the alternate tunings yahoo group Greetings, Anton
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tuning and scale related modules
2006-05-09 by Anton Coops
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