I have done some experiments using a breadboard and a Zener diode, and by supplying a lower voltage to the diodes ?protecting? the 4053 chip, I was able to ensure that for a 0-12V input signal no voltage greater than the supply reached the chip. This confirmed what I expected, i.e. that the chip then behaves the same for a 0-12V signal in as it does for a normal +/-5V (albeit with the 12V chopped down to about 7.5V, but with no problematic ?bleed through?). I could suggest a modification to the lower switch (the right half of the board) which would allow it to work with 0-12V signals as well as the standard +/-5V (extending to cover both switches wouldn?t be such a great step). However this will require: 2 new components ? a resistor and a zener diode; drilling the PCB and inserting 3 pins on which to mount the new components; cutting 3 tracks (6 for both switches); adding 5 wires (8 for both). This is quite involved, and wouldn?t be for the faint hearted! The price paid in using the Zener rather than another regulator (the Zener has a better choice of voltage over the regulator) is an increase in current consumption of the A-150 by about 5mA ? it also means the mods to the board are probably easier though. Tim [The views expressed above are entirely those of the writer and do not represent the views, policy or understanding of any other person or official body.] > > I'm wondering if it's possible to mod only half of the dual switch. > > Almost certainly: I don't have the full PCB diagram with me, but there > must be a suitable point at which to cut the +8V and -8V tracks > between both halves of the 150 circuit, and then strap the appropriate > one (of the now isolated rails) to +12V and the other to ground. You > would really also need to place new 10uF and 100nF capacitors between > the new 12V rail and ground. > > BUT if you are going to go to this extent, it's not really such a > great step to sorting the problem out properly (if I'm right about > it's cause I must add!!!), and then the whole module would work with > +/- 8V *and* 0 - 12 V (although the switched gate/trigger would no > longer be 0 - 12V, but I've seen nothing in any circuit so far to > suggest that this would be a problem). The problem as I see it is > because the diodes 'protecting' the chip won't conduct until the > inputs are around 8.7V: this voltage is then greater than the supply > to the chip (8V), which is what (I'm assuming) is causing it to > misbehave. A solution would be to lower the +8V to the diodes to, say, > +7V: then nothing above 7.7V would reach the chip, which being less > than 8V would (hopefully!) mean it behaves properly. This could be > achieved with another regulator of appropriate rating, but would > require quite a few straps and cuts to tracks because of the way the > diodes and chips hang off the +8V rail. In fairness, the FAQ solution > is described as 'simple' - perhaps you could persuade Dieter to post a > more 'Rolls-Royce' solution (after checking the above 'theory' out of > course)? > > Tim > > [The views expressed above are entirely those of the writer and do not > represent the views, policy or understanding of any other person or > official body.]
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Re: A150 Bleed-thru revisited
2002-05-01 by stinchcombe_t
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