Hi Silas, Well three of us have arrived at that figure independently, so I'm reasonably confident it is good. I have now also checked it against the 19-stage linear FSR equivalent, and that agrees too. Since I *do* have the polynomial for the 19-stage sequence, I'm working on how to derive the sequence length analytically, but it is taken a while to get back up to speed - it was about 10 years ago I last looked at all this stuff. The circuit is very interesting, as whilst it is certainly not a linear FSR in the usual sense (I can't work out if it is non-linear or just 'inhomogeneous', but in either case, most of the established theory will probably not be applicable), it very capably produces a good long sequence, and does not need any special circuitry to kick- start it into action (the inverter in the feedback loop sees to that). So far I've tracked it down to 3 other places: - Ken Stone's CGS Digital Noise (probably later than the A-117) - A book by Ray Marston: 'Integrated Circuit and Waveform Generator Handbook' (1990) - and the Transcendent 2000 (circa 1978?) I suspect it is originally from some short paper published ages ago (perhaps in something like 'Electronics Letters') - I just wish I could track the exact reference down, and save me probably a deal of work! Tim --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Silas Johansen" <sijodk@...> wrote: > > Tim, > > I'd be willing to bet you a patch-cord that those minus 4 comes from a > miscalculation somewhere. It would be a lot easier to designing an > algorithm or a circuit with a cycle length of 2^18 straight than > 2^18-4 as for the latter you would need to reset the bit pattern at a > specified point. With two 4 bit shift registers and two 5 bit ones you > might conceivably design one with a length of (2^4-1)^2 * (2^5-1)^2 > but even this would be harder than designing one with an exact length > of 2^18 and there would be no good reason to do it (at least not for > the purpose in question) > > /Silas > > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Tim Stinchcombe > <timothy@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm now pretty sure the sequence is at least 2^19 = 524288 long, so > > at > > > 1kHz (approx knob setting 4), it will take nearly 9 minutes to > > repeat. > > > > With a little computational help from the kind people on the Synth DIY > > list, and some cajoling to get me to run some calcs myself, I can > > confirm that the sequence length is actually 262140 = 2^18-4. Kind of a > > strange number, but I'm working on shedding some light on it! > > > > Tim > > > > >
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Re: A-117 CV response question
2008-05-07 by Tim Stinchcombe
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