To describe a sine wave mathematically we write the voltage function of time as V(t) = sin(ct) where c is a constant. We can show that c is in fact the frequency, or cycles per unit time (if we normalize to radians). c may be taken to be negative, but in all cases we have the identity: sin(-ct) = -sin(ct) Therefore "negative frequencies" can be achieved by setting the oscillator to the corresponding positive frequency of equal magnitude and running it through a voltage inverter. Now, turning the frequency dial through zero from c to -c is a much different transform than feeding a frequency +c signal through a polarizer and turning the polarizer from +1 to -1. But the start and end points are the same. -Monroe On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:27 AM, omegaattraktor <omegaattraktor@namshub.ch> wrote: > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Monroe Eskew" <monroe.eskew@...> > wrote: > > > > > That sounds like thru-zero amplitude modulation, which is nothing new, > > though it is a nice feature to put within one module. But thru-zero > > frequency modulation? Still confused. > > negative frequencies has nothing to do with inverted phase. it means > that the signal is going its way back. but of course the time continuum > will not be affected. this can happen at any amplitude of the signal, > therefore it doesn't invert the phase. > > negative frequencies do occur with large amount of fm. imaginge the > frequency of an osc with 1kHz is modulated by another osc. if the > amount of modulation is increased there is a point when the frequency > is modulated between 0kHz and 2 khZ. if you increase the modulation > further the frequency finally goes to negative. thru-zero fm just means > that an osc can handle this. > > regards, > oliver > > http://www.namshub.ch/ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: zeroscillator
2008-05-23 by Monroe Eskew
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