This is currently being worked on here (@ analoguebus) as I type this. Hopefully my site will be up in a week to explain our new buss retrofit and modules. Bryan Small analoguebus - currently site is down in blog mode with silly posts On Aug 26, 2009, at 7:36 AM, zaum <zaum@optonline.net> wrote: > I'm lucky enough to have enough non-identical modules to create quite > a few voices. So you could say I'm running polyphonically but I would > characterize what I'm doing as multitimbral and monophonic. I'm > certainly not playing changing chords like on my polysynths. (I'm not > counting the use of several VCOs in an otherwise mono voice as a > chord). > > On the surface it seems like you could just get a bunch of Dark > Energy modules or something similar and a multichannel MIDI to CV > interface with polyphonic assignment of voices and think you have a > polyphonic modular... well to me at least one big aspect is totally > missing in the polyphonic puzzle... how in the world do you change > the sound in unison other than slowly manually going up to each voice > and changing one parameter at a time. What I at least feel is > essential in a poly modular is the ability to control all the voices > from a common set of controls.. > > With a fixed architecture voice there has been an answer since the > 1970s. If you build a voice where every parameter is voltage > controlled you can use a set of common controls on them or even a > microprocessor could store every parameter for later recall. The > stumbling block in a poly modular is the patchability. > > Florian mentions the SEM. They were built by adding extra hardware > into the Oberheim Two, Four and Eight etc. voice polysynths. It's > worth noting that they were not intended as modular synths. But an > interesting aspect is the individual voices can be easily "patched > out" modular style, as Tom Oberheim is offering this year as a > configuration. One thing I and I'm sure others were thinking when he > announced them was if he or a third party will make a a poly voice > assigner (maybe the midi units are chainable? I'm not sure) and then > what existed in the 70s but hasn't been reissued is the programmer > which attempts to send parameter values to each voice module. > Unfortunately it didn't deal with every parameter let alone the patch > cords. > > The Korg PS series took a very unique approach. It does not allocate > voices like nearly all polysynths including the Obergheim polys do. > You get a separate VCF and VCA for each key but there is a set of 12 > (24 or 36 for the 3200 and 3300) shared tunable oscillators with > octave dividers and which is more an organ approach than a VCO style > approach. The 3200 had memory recall of knob position. The patch > field that qualifies it as a semi modular is not polyphonic. > > I believe polyfusion back in the 70s has a polyphonic CV keyboard but > correct me if I'm wrong, nothing else supporting polyphony so it was > change every parameter and patchord manually. > > Emu had a poly keyboard and a programmer that could store a few > values so I guess that was a start but incomplete. I see Cyndustries > has a simple module with some small groups of CV values > > In the early 80s you started to see polysynths with matrix > modulation, which was steps toward a modular but not actually a > modular. These synths added a lot more modulation options but the > underlying architecture was still fixed and the matrix exists more or > less within a CPU. > > Considering the limitations and hybrid technology in the Korg PS I > don't really think the approach is that similar to the Nord Modular. > The Nord Modular is virtual. As long as there is computing power > available you just add an instance of the whole thing. Nothing is > physical. > > It was funny to see the reproduction of smaller scale Korg Legacy > MS-20 complete with patch cables, The hardware MS-20 was monophonic, > The software simulation however is poly, similar to the Nord. The > novelty twist with the Korg is the controller is a physical patch > interface. No sound or voltage goes through the mini MS-20 but it > senses the patch cords. and adjusts the virtual patch to include them > > I think the Buchla 200e changed things because the modules use > encoders and most of the pots can have their settings stored and > recalled. A few pots are just physical and are not stored as well as > no oone has yet made a third party module that has knob recall. While > there have been at least one matrix style storable patchbay out there > that could be used in theory for some patch cord storage, I believe > Buchla is the first to build one as part of a modular system. It's > not perfect if you use many patch cords since it's a small matrix. > You could buy a few of them though there would still be some > compromise. It has up to 4 buses running for voices to more easily > achieve polyphony direct from MIDI if you have enough of the same > modules (or different modules if you don't mind). > > nick > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: polyphonic modulars
2009-08-28 by Bryan - analoguebus
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