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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: only 25 votes so far, keep on voting on the TKS poll, please.

2009-11-17 by Bakis Sirros

yes, a video demo of the TKS prototype would be indeed great. Dieter...?

btw, i have voted 'Yes' in the poll, becuase i think that it would be a really usefull device regardless if one will use it for more standard chromatic playing, or for triggering steps (and freely tunable 'keyboard' playing) and sequencing.

best regards,
Bakis.


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--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: only 25 votes so far, keep on voting on the  TKS poll, please.
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:27 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      I'd like to respond to some of these points.



On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, metafoetus2002 <

jan-hinnerk. helms@t-online. de> wrote:



>   (1) Marrying a traditional keyboard layout and a TKB input means that

> the TKB has to have significantly more steps and according knobs in order to

> make up what seems to be the smallest useable traditional keyboard layout

> with 2 octaves. This means that the number of steps is dictated by the size

> of the keyboard. But for anyone who plays a traditional keyboard, 2 octaves

> won't be enough (back in the heydays of monophonic analog synths, the

> smallest traditional keyboard size was 2,5 octaves). So in order to make

> this device appealing for someone who also wants to use it as a replacement

> or alternative for a traditional keyboard, even the 24 steps of the current

> concept are not enough.

>



I don't think it's intended to replace a traditional keyboard.  It's a

different device and could be one of several controllers in one's studio.



>

> (2) On top of the limited amount of pitch space comes that anyone who wants

> to play a traditional keyboard will be sad about the lack of velocity in a

> sensor-based TKB.

>

However, pressure sensitivity seems to make up for this.



(3) But let's assume that the aforementioned points are not true, and that a

> TKB with a traditional keyboard layout with limited pitch range and no

> velocity would be appealing to people playing traditional keyboard. In tis

> case, doing a TKB with a traditional keyboard layout might cannibalize sales

> of Doepfer's traditional keyboard A-100CGK.

>

If people want a larger range or a more traditional feel, then they'd have

reason for CGK that does not apply to TKB.  Though they might compete

against each other to some extent but not totally.



> (4) According the concept website, the traditional layout of the 25 steps

> mean that the controller and the keyboard might be (a) separate devices and

> (b) both too large to be fitted in an Eurorack. This is a deal-breaker for

> me. I need a TKB with controller and the touch plates to fit into a

> traditional Eurorack.

>

Though some might like it in a separate case for greater portability and

control flexibility.



> (6) A standard keyboard approach calls for a 2 row layout of the pads (one

> for the "black" and one for the "white" keys). A one row approach allows to

> have longer keys, which is a good thing if the pads can also measure the

> finger's y-position on the pad (which is not clear to me from the concept

> website).

>

Although the standard keyboard layout allows one to keep easily track of the

notes, if one is familiar with keyboards.  Some music software have keyboard

views for the same reason.



I would really like to see a video demo of a prototype.



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