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Re: [Doepfer_a100] vco ideas

2003-02-04 by Paul Schulz

Hi!
I wanted to replace my A-110s´ tune knob by such a dual concentric pot, 
but those are hell of expensive :-(  These pots fascinated me since I 
played an Obie Four-Voice some years ago.

Can anyone explain what this "Vernier" thingo is?

Paul


ringmod45 wrote:

>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I agree with both of you here. Another idea would be to have dual
> concentric pots like the Oberheim SEM or the MemoryMoog. This way you
> could sweep the Range much faster than using a Vernier or use the
> fine pot to dial in the frequency with more accuracy. the vernier's
> use is good with the ergonomics of the VCS3 because of the joystick
> and the pin matrix which you could patch to the vco frequency,
> thereby creating the best of both worlds.
>
> I haven't tried the doepfer joysticks. in a vertical setup the big
> dual pots of the SEM may be a little more easy for control in an A100
> setup.
>
> Thoughts, anyone?
>
> RM
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter <david.salter@r...>
> wrote:
> > Bakis,
> > 
> > agreed, this type of VCO is a pleasure to use. no jumping as you
> slide
> > the frequency from low to high, great for 10 octave sweeps - bliss.
> > 
> > 
> >
> > David Salter
> > Reuters Consulting
> > Tel: +44 20 7542 2402
> > Mob: +44 7990562402
> > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699
> >
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From: Bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@y...]
> >       Sent: 03 February 2003 13:33
> >       To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >       Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: NEW INFO FROM DOEPFER ABOUT
> NAMM
> > 2003 AND MORE!!!
> >      
> >      
> >       hi list,
> >       if doepfer would design a new vco i would like it to
> >       be similar to the EMS VCS3 vco's!!!!with no octave
> >       selector,but fully variable freq. from top to bottom
> >       and vernier pots for vco frequency to
> >       much!!!!!also,with vc waveshaping on each waveform!!!!
> >       this would ce great!
> >       bakis.
> >      
> >      
> >       --- "selfoscillate <synaptic_music@hilist,
> >       yahoo.com>" <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> >       >
> >       > additional cv-inputs for the a107 would be fine
> >       > really.
> >       > i would like the a154 to be manufactured as well
> >       > as the touch keyboard with added a154 functionality.
> >       > both will find it's users. i will go for the a154
> >       > for sure,
> >       > followed by another a155 later on.
> >       >
> >       > the a105 is a sure shot for me. i love my korg
> >       > mono/poly
> >       > and i can't wait to get an a105 soon.
> >       >
> >       > another thing i would like to see is a new
> >       > oscillator module
> >       > (the a111 seems to be unavailable again). great
> >       > would be a thing
> >       > like the a111 but with shape control for all
> >       > waveforms.
> >       >
> >       > best wishes
> >       >
> >       > self oscillate
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
> >       > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> >       > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> >       > > DIETER SAY:
> >       > > "All the new modules (Morphing Filter A-107,
> >       > Sequencer
> >       > > Controller A-154, SSM-Filter A-105) were very
> >       > > successfull at the NAMM. Without doubt the A-107
> >       > was
> >       > > the module the visitors asked most for as there is
> >       > no
> >       > > comparable filter on the market. Some people
> >       > mentioned
> >       > > an important feature that is still missing: a
> >       > reset
> >       > > input so that the filter sequence could be set to
> >       > the
> >       > > first filter with a gate/trigger signal (useful
> >       > for
> >       > > the clock-triggered stepping through the filters).
> >       > > Others recommended to add a second CV input for
> >       > each
> >       > > function without attenuator (as for the A-109).
> >       > > But even many visitors were very interested in the
> >       > > A-105 (b.t.w. the designer of the SSM2044 visited
> >       > our
> >       > > booth and he was very proud that there still a lot
> >       > of
> >       > > demand for his "baby"). The visitors checking the
> >       > > A-154 especially loved the voltage controlled
> >       > > addressing of the step and they suggested that we
> >       > > should add this feature in every case to the touch
> >       > > keyboard too (so we probably will ...). Generally
> >       > > people asked to introduce all the features of the
> >       > > A-154 into the touch keyboard. So there is the
> >       > > question if we should manufacture the A-154 or
> >       > only
> >       > > introduce it's features to the touch keyboard
> >       > (once
> >       > > more: a lot of new questions). Many people also
> >       > aked
> >       > > for a "normal" CV/Gate keyboard with 4 or 5
> >       > octaves
> >       > > with the same features as the touch keyboard. As
> >       > we
> >       > > discovered ourselves many visitores mentioned that
> >       > it
> >       > > is very difficult to play with the touch keyboard
> >       > in
> >       > > the normal way as one has no mechanical references
> >       > as
> >       > > for the normal keyboard (e.g. the black keys and
> >       > the
> >       > > pressed key). One always has to look at the
> >       > keyboard
> >       > > and carefully position the finger not to trigger 2
> >       > > keys at the same time. So once again the
> >       > discussion
> >       > > came up if it would not be better to use normal
> >       > > rectangle touch plates instead of the keyboard
> >       > layout
> >       > > of the touch plates. Anyway - we will start a poll
> >       > for
> >       > > the touch keyboard very soon with all these
> >       > questions
> >       > > to find out which version of the keyboard we will
> >       > > manufacture. We finally have to come to an end
> >       > with
> >       > > the touch keyboard discussion. In every case we
> >       > will
> >       > > also develop a "normal" CV/Gate keyboard as the
> >       > > inquiries for such a keyboard are more than we
> >       > > expected. We also think about a digital sequencer
> >       > that
> >       > > could record CV and gate signals as many customers
> >       > > asked for such a device. Also a small version of
> >       > the
> >       > > Schaltwerk features (trigger sequencer with 16
> >       > steps/8
> >       > > tracks with buttons and LEDs, but only one track
> >       > is
> >       > > visible at a time - this will keep the price low,
> >       > the
> >       > > desired track could be selected with additional
> >       > > buttons or an encoder, several LED displays to
> >       > show
> >       > > the track/sequence and so on). As you see a lot of
> >       > new
> >       > > ideas came up that will keep us busy for the next
> >       > > months or even years.
> >       > > 
> >       > > Hans Zimmer visited us for a long time and he was
> >       > very
> >       > > impressed of the Morphing Filter A-107 and
> >       > mentioned
> >       > > that the A-105 is a very important "bread and
> >       > butter
> >       > > module" too as it has a typical sound (of course
> >       > he
> >       > > knows all the instruments that use the SSM2044)
> >       > that
> >       > > differs from the other A-100 filter sounds.
> >       > > 
> >       > > These are the plans for the near future:
> >       > > - publishing the poll for the touch keyboard on
> >       > our
> >       > > web site to decide the final version that will go
> >       > into
> >       > > production (the poll will be active for about 4
> >       > weeks
> >       > > and we think about to combine it with a small
> >       > prize
> >       > > competition so that all participants could win one
> >       > or
> >       > > more A-100 modules (or even a touch keyboard - we
> >       > > don't know).
> >       > > - finishing the A-107 development (adding a reset
> >       > > input, possible adding CV inputs without
> >       > attenuators)
> >       > > - finishing the A-105
> >       > > - starting the A-100 DIY page on our web site
> >       > > (contributions are welcome), it first the basics
> >       > > (principles of power supply, operational
> >       > amplifiers
> >       > > with basic circuits, simple modifications of
> >       > modules,
> >       > > simple DIY modules e.g. power adapters for AS
> >       > modules,
> >       > > CV expander, changing the sensibility of CV and
> >       > audio
> >       > > inputs, increasing the output levels e.g. of VCAs
> >       > to
> >       > > obtain amplifications > 1, AC/DC coupling
> >       > principles
> >       > > and changing AC coupling into DC coupling and vice
> >       > > versa  ....)
> >       > > - finishing the touch keyboard (as soon as the
> >       > poll is
> >       > > closed)
> >       > > - decision if A-154 will go into production
> >       > (connected
> >       > > with the touch keyboard features)
> >       > > - carry on with "module of uncertainty" replica
> >       > > - carry on with chaos generator researches
> >       > > - developing a "normal" CV/Gate keyboard
> >       > > - modules under discussion: PLL module, digital
> >       > > sequencer, trigger sequencer ("mini Schaltwerk"),
> >       > > voltage controlled delay with several taps
> >       > (separate
> >       > > CV for the time shift of each tap) and many more
> >       > ...."
> >       > >
> >       > > COMMENTS,PLEASE?????????????????????????
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > > =====
> >       > > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> >       > > athens-greece
> >       > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> >       > >
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