Hey, Peter -- awesome post. Sound files -- any kind of sound files -- would be very interesting to hear, if you get a chance. It's easier to get the implications in the context of an mp3. Maybe post this to AH too? The absurd attitude toward Doepfer of a lot of voices on that list sort of burns my ass. I mean, is Doepfer or is Doepfer not offering a truly tantalizing flight of great new modules? Come to think of it, I can just see the Konkuro response: "Random voltages are useless! This has nothing to do with music! It's a module for morons! All you need is 1/2 an oscillator, a bandpass filter, and a baked potato, as long as they all have 1/4" jacks!" > -----Original Message----- > From: (i think you can figure that out) > [mailto:petergrenader@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 12:46 PM > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-149- fist impressions > > > Hello to list. Sorry I've been away so long. > > Yesterday I took delivery of the new 149 Quantized/Stored > Random Voltages and I thought I'd inflict you all with my first > impressions.. > > Interesting little bug indeed. > > As always, I am the WORST when it comes to reading manuals > and spent about an hour with it before I downloaded Dieters > instructions. Once I did, things that I was noticed were 'oddly > related' made a lot more sense and I suggest to the lovers of all > things random out there that you do the download first, because > if you leave it to Don Buchla's typically cryptic graphics (which > Dieter also incorporated), like me you won't really have a clue > what is actually going on. > > The top half first: > > The top half of the 149 consists of two separate outputs of > quantized stepped random voltages. Given that both run off the > same random source, they track each other in a remarkable way, > which again is modeled after the characteristics of the Buchla > 266. The top output (n+1) is quantized in 1V increments and the > bottom one (n squared) in 1/12 volt increments. Connected to > the 1V/oct input of a VCO, this means that one is giving you > octaves and the other semitones - and because both run off the > same random source, they track one another. Connecting two > VCOs (one to each of the two quantized outputs) will yield some > intriguing counterpoints which every once in a while resolve > themselves to unisons. > > There is a pot which controls the depth of the spread which can > also be controlled by an external input. The level of this VC can > be attenuated manually with its level pot. > > One thing to mention: the 149, at least mine, reacts to the > TRAILING EDGE of the incoming clock. If you want your > envelope to to track these voltage changes, you're going to have > to invert its trigger (an 165 being the easiest solution) to get it in > sync with what's coming out of the 149. It took me a while to > realize this as I thought at first the n squared out was frequency > doubled from n+1 ( the second reacting tto both rising and failing > edges). > > Outside of the usual applications, my immediate thought was > using the N+1 out to control the 1V/oct VC input of an LFO used > to pace a sound event, thus rendering random musical rhythmic > intervals. Being a big fan of this type of control, I have a pretty > good idea where the n+1 is going to get a lot of use. > > The bottom half: > > The bottom half behaves in a less predicable manner than the > quantized section. It's outputs relfect a true random selection of > 256 available levels generated within the module, also in > accordance with the conventions of the Buchla 266. So, yeah, it's > not true random in that there are only 256 possible resolutions, > but the net effect is pretty much the same. I guess what I'm really > saying is that limitation is not perceivable to me. > > The top output will give you a sampling from all 256 levels at any > given time. The bottom output has an adjustable range (either a > pot or external VC) which in effect allows you to tune the > bandwidth of these fluctations. Although I;m not 100% positive, I > think it's reacting like a low Q bandpass filter, the peak of which > is the pointer of the pot. But instead of passing voltage, you're > passing and attenuating numbers within the range of 256. . Fully > CCW will attenuate the high numbers and give you emphasis on > the low numbers with a gradual taper into the mid range. > Centering the pot will emphasize the center with a graudual > taper to both the low and high ends, and fully CW will fully > attenuate the lower scale and give emphasis on the high > numbers with a gradual taper into the mid. > > In any event, the result is very musical. Atonal, but musical if that > makes any sense. > > One thing to mention is the while this module is set up like and > behaves much in the manner of the Buchla 266, Dieter's method > to derive the random internally is not the same as Buchla's > approach. Dieter opted for digital noise while Don Buchla used > a noise-modulated triangle wave as the source, much like Serge > and Wiard did, but their's use a saw wave. Because this > difference (digital noise), I would be interested to hear the 149 > agianst a 266. I know of a 266 locally and wil be suggesting a > face off in the newar future and will report back to you all, > possibly even with audio examples. > > In any event - if you're lover of random voltage as I am (my > system now has six souces for stepped random) - buy the 149, > it's great. > > hope this helps, > > Peter > >
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] A-149- fist impressions
2003-12-24 by unknown freak
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