--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote: > From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@doepfer.de> > To: "ringmod45" <ringmod45@yahoo.com> > CC: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: AW: a152 suggestions > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:10:16 +0100 > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: ringmod45 [mailto:ringmod45@yahoo.com] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2004 03:39 > > An: hardware@doepfer.de > > Betreff: a152 suggestions > > > > > > > > For some other module we already have started > the > > > > development and built the > > > > first prototypes. But it may be necessary to > add > > > > some major modifications: > > > > A-101-1 Vactrol Steiner Filter, A-101-2 > Lowpass > > > > Gate, A-152 Voltage > > > > Addressed Switch, A-164 Manual Gate. > > > > Hi Mr. Doepfer, > > > > Best wishes and a happy new year to you and > everyone at the shop. > > Thank you RM. All the best in 2004 for you too - > whoever you are. > > > While the a152 is still in the design stages, how > you considered > > adding the trig outputs for every stage. This > could be accomplished > > adding the A161 trig out board to the A152 just > the A160/A161 module. > > Sorry - but it's not possible simply to add the > A-161 board as the A-152 > uses an analog voltage input that allows to address > one of the steps by the > corresponding voltage. In contrast to that A-160 and > A-161 use clock signals > that cause an advantage to the next step. But still > I suppose it would we > possible to add gate outputs to the A-152 with the > gate output of the > currently addressed step set to high (all other > remain low). We simply would > have to add outputs that work like the LED displays > that show the addressed > step. Of course this would increase the price for > the A-152 a bit. > > > Also another idc connector and switch to combine 2 > A152's to have 8 or 16 > stages. > > For the current design this is not possible. The > microcontroller with the > integrated ADC has only 6 pins left (+ 2 for > supply). One pin is the ADC > input, 3 are used for addressing the 8 stages, one > is the clock and the last > one the reset input. So we have no pins left for > additional functions in the > current design. To have 16 voltage addressed stages > available the complete > circuit has to be expanded to 16 steps as in this > case the controlling > voltage (e.g. 0...5V) has be measured and processed > to address 16 steps > instead of 8 steps. The recommended expansion is > only possible for a clock > driven device but not for a voltage controlled one. > The voltage control is > the main feature of the A-152. The additional clock > and reset inputs are an > extra if the control voltage is fixed. As soon as > the control voltage > changes it overrides the setting coming from the > clock unit (A-107 users > will know what I mean as in the A-107 voltage > addressed filter steps and > clocked filter sequences overlap in the same way). > > > I am sure if you do a poll for these features, > people will vote in > > favour of them. I have included a photoshop > mock-up to let see the > > layout I had in mind, it seems to work.here is the > url to yahoo > > doepfer > > > > > http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3183706/__hr_A152+seperate+pulse+outs.gif? > bc0tL__Are_yI3vj > > Sorry. This link did not work. > > > Here is a link of the same trig out feature from > Cyndustries. > > > > > http://www.scampers.com/cyndustries/modules_4chanaSw.cfm > > But this is not a voltage addressed device but only > clock/reset driven as > far as I can see (like the A-151, resp. A-160/A-161 > or the A-155 using the 8 > external inputs of the lower row) > > > Here is another crazy idea, if you have a pot and > vc of the stage > > selection, if you mult a couple of the pulse outs > to the reset in , > > you should be able to have mini switch sequences, > theoretically like > > the Buchla 246 sequencer. > > Sorry - don't understand this. Multiple pulses to > the reset causes to go > step 1 (where it already remains after the first > reset pulse). Maybe you > mixed up clock and reset ? > > > Obviously you would need a one cell memory to > remember the input > > stage, so it can cycle between them, until a new > stage is selected > > either by the address pot or the voltage control > input. Just an idea > > and a crazy one at that,but hopefully possible. > > I'm not sure if I understand everything but the > A-152 will work a bit like > that, i.e. clock and reset are working as long as > the CV does not change. In > this state the CV defines the "reset address", i.e. > a reset signal resets to > the position defined by the "fixed" CV (example: if > CV=0 a reset signal > addresses step 1, CV=2V for example step 3 and so > on). Without a reset > signal the full cycle (1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-1-2-3-4...) > is processed but it would > be possible too that the CV defined step is even the > first step in the cycle > without using the reset signal (e.g. > 3-4-5-6-7-8-3-4-5-6-... with CV=2V). > A bit complicated and maybe confusing, I know. But - > hey - this "research" > :-) > > Dieter Doepfer > > I hope you agree that I send a copy of this message > to the group via Bakis. > > ===== Bakis Siros Parallel Worlds / Polariton Athens-Greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.rubber.gr http://www.ward12.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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Fwd: AW: a152 suggestions(by ringmod and answers from doepfer)
2004-01-08 by Bakis Sirros
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