hello ingo, yes,i have AS vca's.i remember that they sounded fine to me,but to tell you the truth, i haven't test them recently in comparison to my new version a131's.maybe when i finish the track i'm writing at the moment,and manage to get out of this huge patchcable mess, i will make some tests with the AS vca's. bakis. --- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com> wrote: > > hello bakis, > > really strange. anyway, my newer a131's are not > crystal clear, > but they definitely do not sound like zoran's. maybe > doepfer > changed some more parts on the circuit, or those > parts have > bigger tolerances than expected. > you should also try your polarizer for audio, my > a133 > produces lots of hum, more than my newer a131 > at full amplification. thats why i only use it for > control voltages or to amplify my a118 noise > generator ;-) > > btw do you have a vca from analogue systems? > i'm curious how they sound in comparison, because > they have both a linear and an exponential cv input. > unfortunately i don't own one. > > best wishes > > ingo > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote: > > hello ingo, > > first of all,dieter is away from the office for > the > > next four days. > > regarding the new version a131's:that's really > > wierd,as my four new version a131's all have the > same > > harsh sound and noise that i really don't like!of > > course, they amplify the signal much more than the > old > > version a131's,but their noise is very annoying > for my > > taste.whenever i use my new vesion a131's for > smooth > > sounds(like bass)i never turn their input > knobs(even > > the input1)to more than 3-4,because of their > annoying > > harsh sound.as for the a133, i haven't ,still, > used it > > for audio,only for cv processing. > > bakis. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@y...> wrote: > > > > > > hello zoran, > > > > > > yesterday i had just little time in the studio, > > > i haven't recorded anything, so please trust me > :-) > > > anyway, i managed to compare an old and a new > a131. > > > i tried sawtooth, triangle and sine after > another, > > > coming from an a111. the a111 output was patched > > > directly into the vca in question. first i used > > > a constant +5v signal to keep the vca's open all > > > time. > > > after trying this, i used an a140 envelope > instead. > > > > > > the newer a131 inputs are more sensitive, > setting > > > the > > > input attenuator to approximately 6.5 resulted > in > > > the > > > same loudness as with an old a131 set to 10. > > > i used this setting to check the hum of the > vca's. > > > > > > i found that the newer a131 (or at least mine) > > > doesn't > > > produce more hum than the old one. maybe only a > > > slight > > > nuance, barely noticeable, and not as horrible > as in > > > your wav-files. you really need good ears to > find > > > something like hum on my a131's and you have to > > > search > > > for it until you hear it. that's why i couldn't > > > really > > > understand your problem, until i heard your > posted > > > files. > > > your a131 doesn't sound like mine, absolutely > not. > > > i don't have this issue on my a131's, no matter > > > if old or new. ok, the new a131 is louder when > > > it is unattenuated, sounding somewhat harsher > then, > > > but still there is not that much hum. > > > > > > i tried an a132 also and it sounded a bit > smoother > > > than > > > the a131, because it is linear. i'd say that our > > > a132's > > > sound the same. > > > > > > another funny thing is that my a133 polarizer > > > produces > > > much more hum than any other vca in my system, > even > > > when it isn't actually amplifying a signal and > this > > > also makes me wonder. it kept me from buying > another > > > polarizer yet, but maybe my a133 and your a131 > have > > > the same problem? > > > > > > could it be that also other parts have been > replaced > > > during the last few months? maybe we can have > some > > > information on this from dieter doepfer himself. > > > i hope that he is reading this. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Bakis Siros > > Parallel Worlds / Polariton > > Athens-Greece > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > http://www.rubber.gr > > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk > > http://www.ward12.com > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing > online. > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > ===== Bakis Siros Parallel Worlds / Polariton Athens-Greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.rubber.gr http://www.shimarecords.co.uk http://www.ward12.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: old versus new a131
2004-02-06 by Bakis Sirros
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