--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote: > From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@doepfer.de> > To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: MS20 high pass 6 or 12 dB ? > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:19:59 +0200 > > Dear members, > > during the investigation for the planned A-106 MS20 > filter we discovered > that - in our opinion - the MS20 highpass has 6dB > slope only (in contrast to > the lowpass which has indeed 12dB). In the original > Korg specifications and > MS20 manual nothing is said concering the filter > slope but in all secondary > publications we found only 12dB for the high pass > but never 6dB. It seems > that the writers copied from each other. But I'm > still a bit careful as I > cannot believe that nobody discovered during the > last 25 years that the MS20 > highpass is 6dB only. Maybe we missed something. > > But I don't believe that we made a mistake as both > the measurements of the > "real hardware" and the simulations generated the > same results. We > discovered this special quality as it was not > possible to obtain a perfect > bandpass and notch from the MS20 circuit (I do not > speak about the usage of > a separate filter for highpass and bandpass but > about using the circuit as a > kind of multimode filter with different inputs). > There is always a phase > shift of ~ 90 degrees between the HP and LP signal > and consequently there is > feedthrough for high and low frequencies of the > bandpass resp. no notch with > zero level at the center frequency. For full > attenuation 180 degrees of > phase shift woul be necessary - as for other > filters. > > Finally it is not important if the highpass slope is > 6 or 12dB - provided > that the sound is OK. But we want to be sure that we > did not overlook > something. > > If anybody has details concerning 6/12dB highpass > please let us know. > > Thank you > Dieter Doepfer > > ===== Bakis Siros Parallel Worlds / Polariton Athens-Greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.shimarecords.co.uk http://www.ward12.com _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com
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Fwd: MS20 high pass 6 or 12 dB ?(dieter's question)
2004-09-06 by Bakis Sirros
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