Doepfer

hello cuari,

afaik you can't get pwm from an a196.

maybe you should take a look at www.modular-planet.de,
the "pwm-waver" patch uses an a167 for pwm-sounds.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "cuari7" <medejd@t...> wrote:
> Can you get PWM with its comparator?
> I bought an A-167 hoping to be able to get a nice PWM chorused 
sound 
> (like I do from my Serge comparators). 
> Not quite. The result was a disappointing low-volume buzzing sound. 
> It'd be nice to get this from the PLL, though.
> 
> cuari7
> 
> 
> -- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hello ernst,
> > i really recomment the a196 for crazy effects! i have
> > used it mainly with an a110 vco for pitched sounds,
> > but even these pitched sounds have a special
> > "digital-like" noise-odd quality!you really can create
> > many unpredictable effects with the a196, that would
> > be very difficult to create with other modules. or you
> > would have to use a lot of other a100 modules to
> > create the same wierd effects that you can achieve
> > with only one a196! that's why i have three a196's.
> > AND, you can also use it as a standard pulsewave vco,
> > BUT, with linear cv(you can control this linear vco
> > from a yamaha cs or korg ms monosynth).
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Ernst <ernst@d...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello list,
> > > 
> > > Back again with this insane idea of recording
> > > voltage control signals 
> > > to tape.
> > > Thanks for all the suggestions you guys gave me on
> > > the last mail.
> > > 
> > > However, I am still convinced that using a frequency
> > > demodulator is the 
> > > best option. Since using amplitude is not really an
> > > option because 
> > > you'll lose definition in the low amplitude parts
> > > (I'm speaking about 
> > > the conflicts with the noise floor of the recording
> > > medium that 
> > > interferes with the actual CV).
> > > 
> > > After some searching in books and discussing with a
> > > good friend. My 
> > > attention was pointed towards the A-196 PLL module.
> > > I found out the following: a frequency demodulator
> > > uses the phase 
> > > locked loop (PLL) principle....
> > > So actually the A-196 ppl has a freq. demodulator
> > > inside its innards 
> > > (or rather it is the phase comparator part inside
> > > the  A-196 that is 
> > > the freq. demodulator).
> > > 
> > > However, the Phase Comparator in the A-196 is
> > > digital..
> > > This means that it will only report three states of
> > > the difference 
> > > between the incoming signal and the internal VCO,
> > > bummer!
> > > As long as the external signals frequency is higher
> > > than the freq. of 
> > > the internal VCO the resulting VC will keep rising
> > > and vice versa if 
> > > the freq. of the external signal is lower. The
> > > resulting VC remains 
> > > zero as long as the phases of the signals are locked
> > > (= freqs are the 
> > > same). This is then not really providing me with a
> > > proper demodulated 
> > > signal, it gives sort of an integrated version of
> > > what i want.
> > > 
> > > I know that the A-196 PLL is not made for what I
> > > want to do, and I 
> > > still might buy this module anyway because i can see
> > > some cool 
> > > applications for it.
> > > Do any of you guys have some interesting experiences
> > > with this module??
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Ernst
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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