Doepfer

Florian,

  if I were to make a mess of a project I would have no grounds to 
blame a (well written) DIY site.  I don't believe that Doepfer is 
offering any warranty on modules made using their site.  Apart 
from anything else, how many of us on this forum have added 
Analogue Systems, Analogue Solutions, homemade and 
goodness knows what else modules to our cases, thereby 
rendering null any warranty and therefore legal obligation on 
behalf of Doepfer (or ASys etc) for mechanical malfunction.  I did 
so based on the information on the Doepfer site.
 
  "Every "idiot" will continue beeing an idiot. "

  Are you suggesting that by having clearly explained projects to 
try that I would never learn anything about building projects?  
How then did I manage to build my Dual Attenuator - all with no 
previous experience.  I haven't destroyed my synth, burned down 
the house or electrocuted myself (although I freely accept that 
Doepfer, A Sys their employees or any or their immediate family 
are not liable should such an event occur).

  As is happens, I'm now much neater at soldering, and I now 
understand how attenuators work, and why those componemts 
were used.  It has also given me an increased interest in 
building parts of my synth.  I'm currently designing a 20U case to 
build (don't worry, I'll get a qualified electrician to check it over).  
I'm also not a trained carpenter, should I leave all the woodwork 
to the professionals, too?  If so, why have a DIY (Do-It-Yourself) 
page at all?

  "He would crash his pcbs and solder his components to death, 
the idiot will blame me that his diy-project failed"

and yet,

  "There are a lot of well described diy-project out there"

...which you suggested I should start with.  Why aren't these 
diy-project sites/companies being snowed under by idiots who 
are blaming them for every failure and mistake?

  "the idiot will blame me that his diy-project failed... he simply 
still is an idiot."

  ...or he will look at the clearly explained instructions which help 
him understand why each component is chosen and placed, 
and he will realise his mistake, and LEARN.

  "And of course he will tell this to the world."

  And the world will say, "why didn't you follow the clearly 
explained instructions?"

Stuadh

  Six months ago, I knew nothing about analogue synthesis, 
having only experienc of sample-based synths and samplers.  
However, I read up on the subject, bought an A Sys Minisynth, 
and started experimenting.  Should I have stayed well clear of 
analogue synthesis, too.  Three years ago, I knew nothing about 
computers.  So I read up, bought a 2nd hand Mac, learned how 
to work it, and I now maintain my own computer which has 
various specialised music applications on it.  It is integrated into 
my little music studio (including the my doep/A Sys hybrid).  Oh, 
by the way, it has never been back to a repair shop.  I've always 
managed to learn from experience.




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@c...> wrote:
> Hi stuadh
> 
> > I would appreciate if all 
> > components were shown in idiot-proof detail.
> If I was Doepfer, I would not do that.
> 
> The story would go that way: Every "idiot" will continue beeing 
an 
> idiot. He will do things I never thought he could do. He would 
crash his 
> pcbs and solder his components to death, the idiot will blame 
me that 
> his diy-project failed, and he wont get it fixed anyway as much 
as I 
> will help him (while the time, I should work on developping 
moduls) - he 
> simply still is an idiot. The result will be, that the idiot will be 
> very unsatisfied and he will blame his mistake to me - not to 
his own. 
> And of course he will tell this to the world.
> 
> So to my opinion the only way the word "idiot-proof" should be 
> understood is, that a DIY-page is proven, that idiots 
understand, that 
> they should keep their hands off.
> 
> Ok, this is described in extreme words. In reality I should say: 
There 
> are a lot of well described diy-project out there (commercial 
and 
> non-commercial). Start with them, learn with them, and the 
time will 
> come soon, you will be able to work with the Doepfer DIY-page.
> 
> Just my 2 cts
> 
> Florian