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Re: Analogue Solutions percussion modules

2004-10-22 by trebcavxx

I wouldn't know what a Roland original drums sounds like. 
I simply want the drums to sound like I want - I don't think I'd want 
to imitate some other unit.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hello richard,
> yes, i know that you can trigger the concussor modules
> from many different sources. but i was reffering to
> allan's comment that if you trigger the concussor
> modules with 1ms trigger pulse they will sound more
> like the roland original drums.
> bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- trebcavxx <richardbarton@c...>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > You can trigger them from many sources, depending
> > upon the patch 
> > you're playing with. They can trigger from a Master
> > clock pulse - 
> > from SQ8 gate output, from an LFO, from a keyboard
> > gate output, or 
> > the gate output from a MIDI to CV converter. You can
> > even trigger 
> > them using a CV output from the SQ8 - VERY useful.
> > On the SQ8, you 
> > can't turn off a gate pulse. You CAN switch off the
> > CV output from 
> > one or more of the 8 output pots, but the gate pulse
> > remains (a 
> > slight shortcoming of the SQ8 to save costs), but
> > you CAN trigger 
> > using the CV - which means you CAN switch that off
> > and have 
> > syncopated output rhythms to drive your Concussor
> > modules !
> > I frequently hook up all my concussor array to my
> > four SQ8s - all 
> > running from a single master clock, but using the CV
> > outputs, then I 
> > can cancel out certain pulses by switching off
> > certain pots on the 
> > SQ8s - great rhythms !
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > hello allan,
> > > many thanks for the tip! i didn't know that i have
> > to
> > > trigger my concussor modules (btw, i have all of
> > the
> > > drum modules except the handclap module, i really
> > like
> > > them and they sound great) with 1ms trigger pulse
> > in
> > > order to sound like the roland originals. it seems
> > > that i will have to use all my 3 a162's then.
> > > bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- allanjhall <allanjhall@m...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Has anyone tried or owns any of the concussor
> > > > percussion modules? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What approaches do some of you use for real
> > analog
> > > > kick, toms, hi-
> > > > > hats, claves, cowbell, rim, snare, conga and
> > the
> > > > like?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I looked at the Vermona DRM unit, but it does
> > not
> > > > offer the same 
> > > > > degree of control over each sound as with
> > modules.
> > > > Also, I get to 
> > > > pay 
> > > > > for it's dedicated power supply, useless midi
> > I/O,
> > > > and extra for 
> > > > the 
> > > > > CV add-on.
> > > > 
> > > > I've got all of the Concussor percussion modules
> > and
> > > > a Vermona DRM1, 
> > > > the Concussor modules are exact clones of 808,
> > 909
> > > > and CR-78 
> > > > circuitry, even down to using correct japanese
> > > > transistors, but they 
> > > > have a few extra mods and controls to increase
> > the
> > > > tonal ranges. 
> > > > There are two things to bear in mind though, the
> > > > trigger pulse 
> > > > length can alter the sounds a bit, use 1ms pulse
> > and
> > > > they will sound 
> > > > very near to Roland. Other thing is they run
> > from
> > > > +/- 12v supply 
> > > > rather than +/-15v that the 808 and 909 used,
> > this
> > > > has a slight 
> > > > bearing on the sound too, makes them seem a
> > little
> > > > bit softer to me. 
> > > > The DRM1 can make some noises that the AS
> > modules
> > > > can't and they do 
> > > > complement each other quite well.
> > > > 
> > > > I sequence these modules from my Schaltwerk
> > > > sequencer, but the 
> > > > Schaltwerk needs some trigger outputs adding to
> > work
> > > > with them, the 
> > > > gate outs don't trigger successfully. My
> > Schaltwerk
> > > > trigger mod pcb 
> > > > and circuit is in the files area of Schaltwerk
> > > > yahoogroup, this 
> > > > gives the correct 1ms long pulses that these
> > modules
> > > > work best with.
> > > > 
> > > > cheers,
> > > > Allan
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =====
> > > Bakis Siros
> > > Parallel Worlds / Polariton
> > > Athens-Greece
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > > http://www.ward12.com
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> Athens-Greece
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> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
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