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Re: Power Source interference

2004-12-07 by stuadh

I don't belive this has been a problem as I haven't settled on a 
final layout yet.  I've had the "offending" modules in different 
locations.

  As to using different power boards, I'm assuming that this refers 
to separate distribution boards, and not different PSUs?  (please 
excuse that possibly stupid question.  I can easily install another 
dist board for the "noisy" modules.

Stuadh

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Ison" <andrew.ison@n...> 
wrote:
> Hows about live components touching the earthed rack itself?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: stuadh 
>   To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:02 AM
>   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Power Source interference
> 
> 
> 
>   In my case, I can't really contact Doepfer direct as I'm using a 
mix 
>   of A Sys, Doepfer and homemade modules with a 6U A Sys case and a 
6U 
>   homemade case Power-one PSU).  That said, the trouble started 
before 
>   I added any of the homemade stuff and I added the a-146 LFO to 
the A 
>   Sys case.  That was the clincher.  I agree that the LED may not 
be 
>   causing the problems, but in my case, the modulation is clearly 
co-
>   incident with the the LEDs - speed up the LFO/ADSR or whatever, 
and 
>   the modulation speeds up, too.  I'm also well within my Ampage 
limit 
>   (by about 3 Amps)
>     While I may be wrong, I believe that my cases are correctly 
>   grounded.  I've tested the voltages of the PSUs and they check 
out.
> 
>     I was particularly interested in a thread when I first raised 
this 
>   problem here which Julian and others helped with.  Then, it was 
>   mentioned that adding large capacitors across the power rails 
might 
>   help.  My questions are:
> 
>   what sort of value is recommended?
>   Does a cap have to be added at the end of each distribution 
board, or 
>   is one pair in a system enough?
>   What type of cap is recommended?
>   Does it work?
> 
>   Cheers
> 
>   Stuadh
> 
>   --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
>   <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
>   > btw, it is really wierd:
>   > i have a modular with 18 PSU's and i have never
>   > noticed any interference in the audio outputs.
>   > are you sure that all the 6U cases are properly
>   > grounded?
>   > but, of course, you should contact Roland Mayer
>   > direct.
>   > his email: technik@d...
>   > bakis.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
>   > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > hello richard,
>   > > 
>   > > i'd love to help you, but i can't.
>   > > i'm a nut when it comes to electrical things.
>   > > maybe you should email the technical
>   > > stuff at doepfer directly.
>   > > 
>   > > best wishes
>   > > 
>   > > ingo
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "trebcavxx"
>   > > <richardbarton@c...> 
>   > > wrote:
>   > > > 
>   > > > You've highlighted a condition that's been present
>   > > in my own 75-
>   > > > module synth almost from the word GO - pulsating
>   > > modulation in the 
>   > > > sound output. It occurs to a greater or lesser
>   > > degree in virtually 
>   > > > ALL patches (I have 11 VCOs) - and takesd the form
>   > > of a cyclic 
>   > > > variation in amplitude - usually giving the sound
>   > > a "woo-
>   > > > woo.......woo-woo........woo-woo" character rather
>   > > than a straight 
>   > > > tremolo effect. As I say, this has happened from
>   > > the humble 
>   > > > beginnings of a single VCO setup. I now have 5
>   > > seperate power 
>   > > > supplies in the cabinet. I'm a bit doubtful that
>   > > LEDs are causing 
>   > > it 
>   > > > in my case, but would anyone have a cure for
>   > > either of our 
>   > > problems ? 
>   > > > I notice the previous mailing has been pretty well
>   > > ignored.
>   > > > Richard
>   > > > 
>   > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh"
>   > > <stuadh@h...> wrote:
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Hi,
>   > > > > 
>   > > > >   I've been reading up on interference caused by
>   > > LEDs on the 
>   > > > > power bus in the archives, a problem that I'm
>   > > having in my 
>   > > > > homemade and commercial cases.  I've minimised
>   > > the problem 
>   > > > > by strategically placing the offending modules,
>   > > but there was 
>   > > > > some discussion about including large capacitors
>   > > between the 
>   > > > > power rails to help stop this problem occuring
>   > > in the first place.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > >   Has anyone done this, and was it successful? 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > >   What constitutes a "large capacitor" and what
>   > > type.  Does the 
>   > > > > polarity make a difference?
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Yours Aye
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Stuadh
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > 
>   > 
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