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suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-18 by anthonyjanas

howdy,
I have a portable suitcasze system that i use live in a psych band (think factory records 
meet 13th floor elevators) 
the system consist of 
2x 110 vco
1 ring mod
1 diode filter
1 wasp filter
1 spring reverb
1 joystick 
1 adsr
1 VCA
1 mixer
1 a118 noise
1 a119 external input
1 a137 wave multiplier
1 multiple 
1 VC Lfo
 I use it mainly to treat guitar, scifi atmospheric stuff, and to provide some drone bass 
end.  I was planning on picking up the A146 LFO 2 next and the touch keyboard when ever 
it is released, but i'm clueless what to put in the remaining space.  I was thinking about an 
audio divider but i feel the multipler fills this role.  Any suggestions or advice would be 
extremely helpful in my quest.
thanks

Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-18 by thomasborax

hi, just some thoughts off the top of my head...

why 2 oscillators if you're seeking a "processor" type synth?  maybe
try the a108 LPF or the ssm filter (instead of the diode lpf), which
you can use as an oscillator (very good w/oscillating filter possible
through wave multiplier) AND
to process external stuff.

i don't think the ring mod is that interesting.  i recommend getting
the dual vca instead.  you can get some pretty grimy ring mod sounds
with that + you will then have two vcas, which are always helpful.  i
personally don't have a "linear vca" at all in my suitcase.  i do all
amp modulation wit the dual vcas.  works for me...

another hint for saving space is drilling your multiple(s) into the
wood strip at the top or bottom of the suitcase.  since the mults are
passive, this is a good spot for them and gives you more real estate
on the bus board.

consider the  bipolar mixer rather than the straight up mixer.

stick with the wasp, that's a cheapie but goodie.  i like the reverb
unit, but it's a bit one dimensional.  one way to improve it is to
mute one or two of the springs so it's not quite so cathedral boingy
(good sometimes but not all times).

i like the bbd module, but it takes up a bit more real estate.

ok for now-
tom

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anthonyjanas" <ajanas1@...> wrote:
>
> howdy,
> I have a portable suitcasze system that i use live in a psych band
(think factory records 
> meet 13th floor elevators) 
> the system consist of 
> 2x 110 vco
> 1 ring mod
> 1 diode filter
> 1 wasp filter
> 1 spring reverb
> 1 joystick 
> 1 adsr
> 1 VCA
> 1 mixer
> 1 a118 noise
> 1 a119 external input
> 1 a137 wave multiplier
> 1 multiple 
> 1 VC Lfo
>  I use it mainly to treat guitar, scifi atmospheric stuff, and to
provide some drone bass 
> end.  I was planning on picking up the A146 LFO 2 next and the touch
keyboard when ever 
> it is released, but i'm clueless what to put in the remaining space.
 I was thinking about an 
> audio divider but i feel the multipler fills this role.  Any
suggestions or advice would be 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> extremely helpful in my quest.
> thanks
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-18 by neil jendon

> but i'm clueless what to put in the
> remaining space. 

-ashtray
-drink holder
-ice machine
-smoke machine
-strobe light
-puppies

Let me know if any of these work for you.

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-19 by Julian

digging the puppies?
 
i suspect a breakdown in communication caused by the irregularities between
slang versions ; )
 
julian
 
 

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of anthonyjanas
Sent: 19 October 2006 00:56
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: suggestions for a100 portable system




i'm digging the puppies
thanks



 


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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-19 by Julian

> digging the puppies?
>
> i suspect a breakdown in communication caused by the irregularities
between
> slang versions ; )

I should probably open my eyes, shouldn't i?

Either that, or just go to bed.

Sorry people.  Ill shut up now ; )

j

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-19 by Florian Anwander

Hi Julian

> digging the puppies?
> i suspect a breakdown in communication caused by the irregularities between
> slang versions ; )
One of the main reasons for continous increase of populations ;-)

Florian

Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-19 by anthonyjanas

thanks for the suggestions! 
what would be the advantage of a bipolar mixer rather than the standard mixer?
I was trying to make the system a hybrid of processing and generating sounds, hence the 
2 oscillators.  The idea of using the a108 as a additional osc is very useful. 
thanks again


  --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> hi, just some thoughts off the top of my head...
> 
> why 2 oscillators if you're seeking a "processor" type synth?  maybe
> try the a108 LPF or the ssm filter (instead of the diode lpf), which
> you can use as an oscillator (very good w/oscillating filter possible
> through wave multiplier) AND
> to process external stuff.
> 
> i don't think the ring mod is that interesting.  i recommend getting
> the dual vca instead.  you can get some pretty grimy ring mod sounds
> with that + you will then have two vcas, which are always helpful.  i
> personally don't have a "linear vca" at all in my suitcase.  i do all
> amp modulation wit the dual vcas.  works for me...
> 
> another hint for saving space is drilling your multiple(s) into the
> wood strip at the top or bottom of the suitcase.  since the mults are
> passive, this is a good spot for them and gives you more real estate
> on the bus board.
> 
> consider the  bipolar mixer rather than the straight up mixer.
> 
> stick with the wasp, that's a cheapie but goodie.  i like the reverb
> unit, but it's a bit one dimensional.  one way to improve it is to
> mute one or two of the springs so it's not quite so cathedral boingy
> (good sometimes but not all times).
> 
> i like the bbd module, but it takes up a bit more real estate.
> 
> ok for now-
> tom
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anthonyjanas" <ajanas1@> wrote:
> >
> > howdy,
> > I have a portable suitcasze system that i use live in a psych band
> (think factory records 
> > meet 13th floor elevators) 
> > the system consist of 
> > 2x 110 vco
> > 1 ring mod
> > 1 diode filter
> > 1 wasp filter
> > 1 spring reverb
> > 1 joystick 
> > 1 adsr
> > 1 VCA
> > 1 mixer
> > 1 a118 noise
> > 1 a119 external input
> > 1 a137 wave multiplier
> > 1 multiple 
> > 1 VC Lfo
> >  I use it mainly to treat guitar, scifi atmospheric stuff, and to
> provide some drone bass 
> > end.  I was planning on picking up the A146 LFO 2 next and the touch
> keyboard when ever 
> > it is released, but i'm clueless what to put in the remaining space.
>  I was thinking about an 
> > audio divider but i feel the multipler fills this role.  Any
> suggestions or advice would be 
> > extremely helpful in my quest.
> > thanks
> >
>

Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-19 by thomasborax

anthony-
well, the bipolar mixer allows very flexible voltage mixing.  you can 
mix audio with it too, though the linear response curve is not ideal 
(i.e. most of the volume variation occurs very close to zero on the 
knob). 

i related to your post because i don't hav a big rack system.  i'm on 
a pretty tight budget so i can pretty much only keep what i can fit 
in my suitcase.  this is very limiting, but kind of fun in that you 
have to be very creative with just a handful of modules.

i personally only use one osc.  being by nature monophonic anyway, i 
figue why have more than one osc?  if i had a huge system like bakis 
or ingo, i would probably develop patches with many oscs that lead to 
polyphony, but w/ my small suitcase why take up so much space with a 
10hp osc?  at 12hp the 108 filter is great as an osc (w/ some wave 
shaping) and it is a great filter to boot.

in a different thread on here dieter doepfer said recently that the 
108 had the most accurate tracking of the a100 filters. so there you 
go!  it's as good as an oscillator and has other possibilites than a 
boring sound generator.

just a suggestion, my opinion of course, but give it a consideration.

good luck!-
tom 

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anthonyjanas" <ajanas1@...> 
wrote:
>
> thanks for the suggestions! 
> what would be the advantage of a bipolar mixer rather than the 
standard mixer?
> I was trying to make the system a hybrid of processing and 
generating sounds, hence the 
> 2 oscillators.  The idea of using the a108 as a additional osc is 
very useful. 
> thanks again
> 
> 
>   --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@> 
wrote:
> >
> > hi, just some thoughts off the top of my head...
> > 
> > why 2 oscillators if you're seeking a "processor" type synth?  
maybe
> > try the a108 LPF or the ssm filter (instead of the diode lpf), 
which
> > you can use as an oscillator (very good w/oscillating filter 
possible
> > through wave multiplier) AND
> > to process external stuff.
> > 
> > i don't think the ring mod is that interesting.  i recommend 
getting
> > the dual vca instead.  you can get some pretty grimy ring mod 
sounds
> > with that + you will then have two vcas, which are always 
helpful.  i
> > personally don't have a "linear vca" at all in my suitcase.  i do 
all
> > amp modulation wit the dual vcas.  works for me...
> > 
> > another hint for saving space is drilling your multiple(s) into 
the
> > wood strip at the top or bottom of the suitcase.  since the mults 
are
> > passive, this is a good spot for them and gives you more real 
estate
> > on the bus board.
> > 
> > consider the  bipolar mixer rather than the straight up mixer.
> > 
> > stick with the wasp, that's a cheapie but goodie.  i like the 
reverb
> > unit, but it's a bit one dimensional.  one way to improve it is to
> > mute one or two of the springs so it's not quite so cathedral 
boingy
> > (good sometimes but not all times).
> > 
> > i like the bbd module, but it takes up a bit more real estate.
> > 
> > ok for now-
> > tom
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anthonyjanas" <ajanas1@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > howdy,
> > > I have a portable suitcasze system that i use live in a psych 
band
> > (think factory records 
> > > meet 13th floor elevators) 
> > > the system consist of 
> > > 2x 110 vco
> > > 1 ring mod
> > > 1 diode filter
> > > 1 wasp filter
> > > 1 spring reverb
> > > 1 joystick 
> > > 1 adsr
> > > 1 VCA
> > > 1 mixer
> > > 1 a118 noise
> > > 1 a119 external input
> > > 1 a137 wave multiplier
> > > 1 multiple 
> > > 1 VC Lfo
> > >  I use it mainly to treat guitar, scifi atmospheric stuff, and 
to
> > provide some drone bass 
> > > end.  I was planning on picking up the A146 LFO 2 next and the 
touch
> > keyboard when ever 
> > > it is released, but i'm clueless what to put in the remaining 
space.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> >  I was thinking about an 
> > > audio divider but i feel the multipler fills this role.  Any
> > suggestions or advice would be 
> > > extremely helpful in my quest.
> > > thanks
> > >
> >
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-20 by achtung_999

I have an A101-2 in my portable set. This is very useful because it
can be used as a (pretty damn extreme) LPF and a VCA..(and of course
the inbetween lopass gate function) which is saving some space in the
suitcase.

I must admit that optimizing the portable set to my needs is an ongoing process.
I have the luck of owning quite some racks of Doepfer so I can test
stuff out and exchange it back into the big system if it ain't worth
using it live..

Re: suggestions for a100 portable system

2006-10-22 by anthonyjanas

I too am working with a budget and i find working with a suitcase system does force me to 
work smarter when coming up with patches.  
In the near future i will probably switch out one osc with the a108, but right now i'm still 
trying to find a proper balance with the rest of the system, thanks again!




i related to your post because i don't hav a big rack system.  i'm on 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> a pretty tight budget so i can pretty much only keep what i can fit 
> in my suitcase.  this is very limiting, but kind of fun in that you 
> have to be very creative with just a handful of modules.
> 
> i personally only use one osc.  being by nature monophonic anyway, i 
> figue why have more than one osc?  if i had a huge system like bakis 
> or ingo, i would probably develop patches with many oscs that lead to 
> polyphony, but w/ my small suitcase why take up so much space with a 
> 10hp osc?  at 12hp the 108 filter is great as an osc (w/ some wave 
> shaping) and it is a great filter to boot.
> 
> in a different thread on here dieter doepfer said recently that the 
> 108 had the most accurate tracking of the a100 filters. so there you 
> go!  it's as good as an oscillator and has other possibilites than a 
> boring sound generator.
> 
> just a suggestion, my opinion of course, but give it a consideration.
> 
> good luck!-
> tom 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anthonyjanas" <ajanas1@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > thanks for the suggestions! 
> > what would be the advantage of a bipolar mixer rather than the 
> standard mixer?
> > I was trying to make the system a hybrid of processing and 
> generating sounds, hence the 
> > 2 oscillators.  The idea of using the a108 as a additional osc is 
> very useful. 
> > thanks again
> > 
> > 
> >   --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi, just some thoughts off the top of my head...
> > > 
> > > why 2 oscillators if you're seeking a "processor" type synth?  
> maybe
> > > try the a108 LPF or the ssm filter (instead of the diode lpf), 
> which
> > > you can use as an oscillator (very good w/oscillating filter 
> possible
> > > through wave multiplier) AND
> > > to process external stuff.
> > > 
> > > i don't think the ring mod is that interesting.  i recommend 
> getting
> > > the dual vca instead.  you can get some pretty grimy ring mod 
> sounds
> > > with that + you will then have two vcas, which are always 
> helpful.  i
> > > personally don't have a "linear vca" at all in my suitcase.  i do 
> all
> > > amp modulation wit the dual vcas.  works for me...
> > > 
> > > another hint for saving space is drilling your multiple(s) into 
> the
> > > wood strip at the top or bottom of the suitcase.  since the mults 
> are
> > > passive, this is a good spot for them and gives you more real 
> estate
> > > on the bus board.
> > > 
> > > consider the  bipolar mixer rather than the straight up mixer.
> > > 
> > > stick with the wasp, that's a cheapie but goodie.  i like the 
> reverb
> > > unit, but it's a bit one dimensional.  one way to improve it is to
> > > mute one or two of the springs so it's not quite so cathedral 
> boingy
> > > (good sometimes but not all times).
> > > 
> > > i like the bbd module, but it takes up a bit more real estate.
> > > 
> > > ok for now-
> > > tom
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anthonyjanas" <ajanas1@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > howdy,
> > > > I have a portable suitcasze system that i use live in a psych 
> band
> > > (think factory records 
> > > > meet 13th floor elevators) 
> > > > the system consist of 
> > > > 2x 110 vco
> > > > 1 ring mod
> > > > 1 diode filter
> > > > 1 wasp filter
> > > > 1 spring reverb
> > > > 1 joystick 
> > > > 1 adsr
> > > > 1 VCA
> > > > 1 mixer
> > > > 1 a118 noise
> > > > 1 a119 external input
> > > > 1 a137 wave multiplier
> > > > 1 multiple 
> > > > 1 VC Lfo
> > > >  I use it mainly to treat guitar, scifi atmospheric stuff, and 
> to
> > > provide some drone bass 
> > > > end.  I was planning on picking up the A146 LFO 2 next and the 
> touch
> > > keyboard when ever 
> > > > it is released, but i'm clueless what to put in the remaining 
> space.
> > >  I was thinking about an 
> > > > audio divider but i feel the multipler fills this role.  Any
> > > suggestions or advice would be 
> > > > extremely helpful in my quest.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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