Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Random Sources
2006-11-02 by davevosh@aol.com
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2006-11-02 by davevosh@aol.com
In a message dated 11/2/2006 9:53:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, hardware@doepfer.de writes: Yes. It's the A-149-3 fluctuating voltages module with vactrol slew limiters for smoothening the CVs. I expect that it will be available ~ spring 2007. wonderful ! a smooth r.v.g. with a better control range and feature set would be much appreciated here ! best, dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-04-14 by jalmari3
Have you noticed, that 149-1 2^n output never gives the same value twice in succession - expect for the lowest and and highest possible values, which it repeats quite often.
2007-10-18 by jalmari3
Some observations: A-149-1 Quantized/Stored Random Voltages: - N+1 output never "jumps" - it repeats the previous value or changes to next lower of higher value. - 2^n output never gives same value twice in succession - expect for the lowest and and highest possible values, which it repeats quite often. - "Equal probability distribution" output has some "personality" too. - "Adjustable probability" distribution output makes distinctive patterns: For example, if D=0, then the output typically jumps up and then settles down in succesive steps. If D=10, this is mirrored. A-149-2 Digital Random Voltages module: A-149-1 knobs don't affect A-149-2. Outputs 1 to 7 are "echoes" of output 8. In this order: 8 => 7 => 5 => 4 => 2 => 1 => 3 => 6 For example, output 5 is two clock cycles behind output 8. (I assume, I would prefer more "true" randomness.) Best regards Jari Jokinen
2007-10-19 by hardware@doepfer.de
> Some observations: > > A-149-1 Quantized/Stored Random Voltages: > - N+1 output never "jumps" - it repeats the previous value or changes > to next lower of higher value. > - 2^n output never gives same value twice in succession - expect for > the lowest and and highest possible values, which it repeats quite > often. > - "Equal probability distribution" output has some "personality" too. > - "Adjustable probability" distribution output makes distinctive > patterns: For example, if D=0, then the output typically jumps up and > then settles down in succesive steps. If D=10, this is mirrored. > > A-149-2 Digital Random Voltages module: > A-149-1 knobs don't affect A-149-2. Outputs 1 to 7 are "echoes" of > output 8. In this order: > 8 => 7 => 5 => 4 => 2 => 1 => 3 => 6 > For example, output 5 is two clock cycles behind output 8. > > (I assume, I would prefer more "true" randomness.) > > Best regards > Jari Jokinen The A-149-1 just simulates the quantized/stored random voltages of the Buchla module, i.e. the outputs of a shift register with two or-ed feedback lines are weighted (with different resistor values in the Buchla circuit, by calculation and DAC in the A-149-1) to obtain a random voltage. The circuit is similar to a digital noise (which is also not really random but has a period depending upon the clock and the shift register length). Due to the nature of this circuit the randomness may be different from what you expect. The behaviour of the A-149-2 is normal as it's nothing but the shift register outputs. Please look at the A-149-2 description " ... correspond to the 8 digital outputs of the shift register that is used to generate the Quantized Random Voltages". Consequently the shifting of the states from output to output is the normal behaviour. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer