Doepfer

In a message dated 4/11/2002 8:51:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com writes:


> anyway i voted to be released.but i don't see a warm 
> reaction by most of the members to this poll...
> 


hello,
well, its "just one of those things", i guess. to me, this a-197 controller 
is extremely interesting and one of the few newly unique, affordable bits of 
controller technology.i`ve seen lately.  it does appear , though, that it 
doesn`t elicit much interest here.  oh well......
best,
dave




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., davevosh@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 4/11/2002 8:51:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> synth_freak_2000@y... writes:
> 
> 
> > anyway i voted to be released.but i don't see a warm 
> > reaction by most of the members to this poll...
>

hi dave,i am sad to say most of the people on this group do not 
participate in the polls. the most important module to come out for 
the A100 is the forthcoming Touch Keyboard Sequencer. there are 171 
members in the group, i created a very thorough poll on the TKBS, 
only 7 members decided to vote. thank you to the  7 people who voted. 
how are Doepfer supposed a make a decision on a given feature or 
module, when less than 5 % of the members actually care to vote. 

i would like to see the A197 go into production for others and myself 
to enjoy, as well as for the reasons below. so the onus is on us to 
vote and speak out and do something about it. we are very lucky to 
have a manufacturer that at least partially listening to us. you 
should see the cries and pleas on the Yamaha rs7000 yahoo group for 
them to have a version 2 upgrade to the rs7000. fat chance that will 
ever happen, they don't even have a company rep on there to monitor 
the group. 

i mean lucky for us partially because it's almost been a month and 
not a peep from doepfer about the Regelwerk or Schaltwerk. so i guess 
since nobody's mentioned the cpu upgrade, it's back to the "I WILL 
FORGET ABOUT IT" closet. i think Doepfer should get its priorities 
straight and finish the TKBS and then address the gaping issue of the 
Regelwerk and Schaltwerk, correct the the situation and garner some 
much needed credit to its bruised image on these particular machines. 
please don't think that it is not important to your company image and 
its products. you will still keep selling the same amount of A100 
systems as you have in the past. no one is not going to buy anA100 
system because the filter of the month is going to be put aside for 1 
or 2 months so you can fix and ameliorate  a problem that needs an 
immediate solution. the good part that will come out of this is that 
people will actually want to buy and use the Regelwerk and Schaltwerk 
because they are functioning and feature laden not choked up, which 
in turn will probably help sell more A100 systems. again, this is a 
friendly reminder that something should be done about the situation 
and not a slant on Doepfer Musikelektronik.

by the way, my schaltwerk is v 1.30. what's up with the version 1.41 
rom upgrade? nothing was mentioned on the site.  is it an upgrade and 
what are the changes? let's hope it fixes the sync problem.
regards,
RM  


 > 
> 
> 
> hello,
> well, its "just one of those things", i guess. to me, this a-197 
controller 
> is extremely interesting and one of the few newly unique, 
affordable bits of 
> controller technology.i`ve seen lately.  it does appear , though, 
that it 

> doesn`t elicit much interest here.  oh well......
> best,
> dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 4/11/02 8:55 PM, "ringmod45" <ringmod45@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi dave,i am sad to say most of the people on this group do not
> participate in the polls.

where are the polls?
 I was on the old A100 list but just found this one, and was very anxious to
get the A-197 and the TKB... this sucks the A-197 really seemed great! but,
I guess I'll get an AS cabinet next then to expand in that
direction...bummer.
best,
phil

A few subjective opinions here...

first of all things that I think sells a doepfer are "quality of sound,
decent quality of mechanics, and unique modules like the A108, A138 and
such. Not sheer amount of halfgood stuff. Just a though. I just recently
ordered a VCO 95 from Asys cause it seems to be the best on the market as
comes to soundfunctions.


> hi dave,i am sad to say most of the people on this group do not
> participate in the polls. the most important module to come out for
> the A100 is the forthcoming Touch Keyboard Sequencer. there are 171
> members in the group, i created a very thorough poll on the TKBS,
> only 7 members decided to vote. thank you to the  7 people who voted.
> how are Doepfer supposed a make a decision on a given feature or
> module, when less than 5 % of the members actually care to vote.
>

I think the interest is displayed also by none voting. Imporant polls gets
more attention than less important ones. I haven't voted since I as you know
don't care about it. If I did vote it would be against, but perhaps that
option isn't there.



> i mean lucky for us partially because it's almost been a month and
> not a peep from doepfer about the Regelwerk or Schaltwerk. so i guess
> since nobody's mentioned the cpu upgrade, it's back to the "I WILL
> FORGET ABOUT IT" closet. i think Doepfer should get its priorities
> straight and finish the TKBS and then address the gaping issue of the
> Regelwerk and Schaltwerk, correct the the situation and garner some
> much needed credit to its bruised image on these particular machines.
> please don't think that it is not important to your company image and
> its products.

I second that!

hi RM,
now i remember that dieter had told me that they are
planning a hardware upgrade for
regelwerk/shaltwerk.so,i guess,it will happen and will
not be forgotten...
bakis.
p.s.:i agree with you about the small participation in
the polls.(that's for most of the members...)what do
you really want us to do to persuade you to vote??????


--- ringmod45 <ringmod45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., davevosh@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 4/11/2002 8:51:25 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> > synth_freak_2000@y... writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > anyway i voted to be released.but i don't see a
> warm 
> > > reaction by most of the members to this poll...
> >
> 
> hi dave,i am sad to say most of the people on this
> group do not 
> participate in the polls. the most important module
> to come out for 
> the A100 is the forthcoming Touch Keyboard
> Sequencer. there are 171 
> members in the group, i created a very thorough poll
> on the TKBS, 
> only 7 members decided to vote. thank you to the  7
> people who voted. 
> how are Doepfer supposed a make a decision on a
> given feature or 
> module, when less than 5 % of the members actually
> care to vote. 
> 
> i would like to see the A197 go into production for
> others and myself 
> to enjoy, as well as for the reasons below. so the
> onus is on us to 
> vote and speak out and do something about it. we are
> very lucky to 
> have a manufacturer that at least partially
> listening to us. you 
> should see the cries and pleas on the Yamaha rs7000
> yahoo group for 
> them to have a version 2 upgrade to the rs7000. fat
> chance that will 
> ever happen, they don't even have a company rep on
> there to monitor 
> the group. 
> 
> i mean lucky for us partially because it's almost
> been a month and 
> not a peep from doepfer about the Regelwerk or
> Schaltwerk. so i guess 
> since nobody's mentioned the cpu upgrade, it's back
> to the "I WILL 
> FORGET ABOUT IT" closet. i think Doepfer should get
> its priorities 
> straight and finish the TKBS and then address the
> gaping issue of the 
> Regelwerk and Schaltwerk, correct the the situation
> and garner some 
> much needed credit to its bruised image on these
> particular machines. 
> please don't think that it is not important to your
> company image and 
> its products. you will still keep selling the same
> amount of A100 
> systems as you have in the past. no one is not going
> to buy anA100 
> system because the filter of the month is going to
> be put aside for 1 
> or 2 months so you can fix and ameliorate  a problem
> that needs an 
> immediate solution. the good part that will come out
> of this is that 
> people will actually want to buy and use the
> Regelwerk and Schaltwerk 
> because they are functioning and feature laden not
> choked up, which 
> in turn will probably help sell more A100 systems.
> again, this is a 
> friendly reminder that something should be done
> about the situation 
> and not a slant on Doepfer Musikelektronik.
> 
> by the way, my schaltwerk is v 1.30. what's up with
> the version 1.41 
> rom upgrade? nothing was mentioned on the site.  is
> it an upgrade and 
> what are the changes? let's hope it fixes the sync
> problem.
> regards,
> RM  
> 
> 
>  > 
> > 
> > 
> > hello,
> > well, its "just one of those things", i guess. to
> me, this a-197 
> controller 
> > is extremely interesting and one of the few newly
> unique, 
> affordable bits of 
> > controller technology.i`ve seen lately.  it does
> appear , though, 
> that it 
> > doesn`t elicit much interest here.  oh well......
> > best,
> > dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 


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In looking @ the polls, I wonder about how useful something like that would be, 
There are tons of polls up there and most just ask "Would you like Doepfer to make 
module X". It would probably be more beneficial to have a vote on which poll would 
be most wanted, comparing several against each other. 

Just a thought. 

Rob 
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----- Original Message ----- 

From: bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a-197 not to be produced - ?


> hi RM,
> now i remember that dieter had told me that they are
> planning a hardware upgrade for
> regelwerk/shaltwerk.so,i guess,it will happen and will
> not be forgotten...
> bakis.
> p.s.:i agree with you about the small participation in
> the polls.(that's for most of the members...)what do
> you really want us to do to persuade you to vote??????
> 
> 
> --- ringmod45 <ringmod45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., davevosh@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 4/11/2002 8:51:25 AM Eastern
> > Daylight Time, 
> > > synth_freak_2000@y... writes:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > anyway i voted to be released.but i don't see a
> > warm 
> > > > reaction by most of the members to this poll...
> > >
> > 
> > hi dave,i am sad to say most of the people on this
> > group do not 
> > participate in the polls. the most important module
> > to come out for 
> > the A100 is the forthcoming Touch Keyboard
> > Sequencer. there are 171 
> > members in the group, i created a very thorough poll
> > on the TKBS, 
> > only 7 members decided to vote. thank you to the  7
> > people who voted. 
> > how are Doepfer supposed a make a decision on a
> > given feature or 
> > module, when less than 5 % of the members actually
> > care to vote. 
> > 
> > i would like to see the A197 go into production for
> > others and myself 
> > to enjoy, as well as for the reasons below. so the
> > onus is on us to 
> > vote and speak out and do something about it. we are
> > very lucky to 
> > have a manufacturer that at least partially
> > listening to us. you 
> > should see the cries and pleas on the Yamaha rs7000
> > yahoo group for 
> > them to have a version 2 upgrade to the rs7000. fat
> > chance that will 
> > ever happen, they don't even have a company rep on
> > there to monitor 
> > the group. 
> > 
> > i mean lucky for us partially because it's almost
> > been a month and 
> > not a peep from doepfer about the Regelwerk or
> > Schaltwerk. so i guess 
> > since nobody's mentioned the cpu upgrade, it's back
> > to the "I WILL 
> > FORGET ABOUT IT" closet. i think Doepfer should get
> > its priorities 
> > straight and finish the TKBS and then address the
> > gaping issue of the 
> > Regelwerk and Schaltwerk, correct the the situation
> > and garner some 
> > much needed credit to its bruised image on these
> > particular machines. 
> > please don't think that it is not important to your
> > company image and 
> > its products. you will still keep selling the same
> > amount of A100 
> > systems as you have in the past. no one is not going
> > to buy anA100 
> > system because the filter of the month is going to
> > be put aside for 1 
> > or 2 months so you can fix and ameliorate  a problem
> > that needs an 
> > immediate solution. the good part that will come out
> > of this is that 
> > people will actually want to buy and use the
> > Regelwerk and Schaltwerk 
> > because they are functioning and feature laden not
> > choked up, which 
> > in turn will probably help sell more A100 systems.
> > again, this is a 
> > friendly reminder that something should be done
> > about the situation 
> > and not a slant on Doepfer Musikelektronik.
> > 
> > by the way, my schaltwerk is v 1.30. what's up with
> > the version 1.41 
> > rom upgrade? nothing was mentioned on the site.  is
> > it an upgrade and 
> > what are the changes? let's hope it fixes the sync
> > problem.
> > regards,
> > RM  
> > 
> > 
> >  > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > hello,
> > > well, its "just one of those things", i guess. to
> > me, this a-197 
> > controller 
> > > is extremely interesting and one of the few newly
> > unique, 
> > affordable bits of 
> > > controller technology.i`ve seen lately.  it does
> > appear , though, 
> > that it 
> > > doesn`t elicit much interest here.  oh well......
> > > best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hi RM,
> now i remember that dieter had told me that they are
> planning a hardware upgrade for
> regelwerk/shaltwerk.so,i guess,it will happen and will
> not be forgotten...
> bakis.
> p.s.:i agree with you about the small participation in
> the polls.(that's for most of the members...)what do
> you really want us to do to persuade you to vote??????
> 
> 

hi bakkis, can you please ask, when they are to planing to release 
the upgrade? 
Regards,
RM

Hi Bakis 

> p.s.:i agree with you about the small participation in
> the polls.(that's for most of the members...)what do
> you really want us to do to persuade you to vote??????
I removed my account from yahoo, due to the spam-policies. So I won't be
able to participate in future polls. Sorry.

Florian
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